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Old 10-15-2013 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Yes, but Delta didn't have an attractive contract until recently.
Go on? Your point was that the top notch applicants have all gone to FDX/UPS/SWA. They haven't been hiring, either. And still aren't....
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Old 10-15-2013 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear
One of them was the son of the guy in charge of hiring, he got the job.
No surprise. He's a top-notch guy.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Go on? Your point was that the top notch applicants have all gone to FDX/UPS/SWA. They haven't been hiring, either. And still aren't....
Huh? The most junior captains at those airlines except UPS, are in the 2003-2005 range while Delta is the late 90's. They also all make Delta widebody captain pay. There has been a lot more hiring in the last decade at those carriers than Delta. The bankruptcy contracts also sunk Delta and NWA way below those other carriers, until recently.

I bet you in a year Delta will be lowering its minimums.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Huh? The most junior captains at those airlines except UPS, are in the 2003-2005 range while Delta is the late 90's. They also all make Delta widebody captain pay. There has been a lot more hiring in the last decade at those carriers than Delta. The bankruptcy contracts also sunk Delta and NWA way below those other carriers, until recently.

I bet you in a year Delta will be lowering its minimums.
And now they aren't hiring and DL/UA/US/AA is.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
And now they aren't hiring and DL/UA/US/AA is.
Almost like it's a little cyclical!
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Old 10-15-2013 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
And now they aren't hiring and DL/UA/US/AA is.
Yes, and Delta has already reached the bottom numbers of our list in two weeks.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Yes, and Delta has already reached the bottom numbers of our list in two weeks.
Uhhhh What? Are you talking only the Captain portion?
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Old 10-15-2013 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
Almost like it's a little cyclical!
Yep. They went on pause back in 08, nothing has happened much with anyone since then, now they are still on pause while DL/UA/AA/US are cranking things back up. There's a good 5 year backlog of applicants.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Yes, and Delta has already reached the bottom numbers of our list in two weeks.
That's not surprising. Called it! And so the SSP logjam begins...
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Old 10-15-2013 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Yes, and Delta has already reached the bottom numbers of our list in two weeks.
That must mean most of you guys aren't top notch. If you think DAL, who has 12,000 applications for 300 slots, is already out of highly qualified folks, you're nuts.
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