cencal83406

For the FOs outside of SSP... Is there any way to "prove" or demonstrate capacity to run a cockpit?

I've noticed that certain personality test questions seem to lean in that direction when it comes to "outside the cockpit" behavior, which IMHO does not equate very well with in cockpit behavior.

To the point, when it comes to activities with friends and family, I personally don't "take the reins". I'll suggest stuff to do but see no need to lead anyone in that regard. Doesn't seem like that would be a good indicator of in-cockpit leadership ability anyway.

Or, is that exactly what they want? Someone to demonstrate that they are "in charge" all the time?

John Carr

And it this stage of the game, it's assumed when somebody says another person is a "good pilot" it's akin to a law enforcement person being called "good cop". It's NOT because he can write tickets and slap the cuffs on somebody like nobody's business. It's because he's a sharp/level headed dude, easy to work with, well liked/respected by coworkers, always does the right thing, whatever. Just like a "good pilot" is.

Since in the 2007-2008, AND in the short 2010 hiring FO's were hired, I'd say YES. You can either do this job, or you can't. You can either be a leader, or you can't. Now that's not to say that being a CA doesn't sharpen/hone those skills tremendously, the FACT remains. A candidate's ability/capacity or potential to take charge/lead will be seen/realized

fatsopilot

Sure, says the guy who refers to the competition from the Middle East as "Raghead" airlines. They lowered their standards for you judging by your behavior on these boards. Have you read any of the documents on DeltaNet on how to handle yourself as an employee of Delta Air Lines?

80ktsClamp

That's why they do the personality profile and such. They are looking for comfortable/confident type A people that don't have the napoleon thing going on. i.e. someone who is a natural leader but knows when to follow as well.

Justdoinmyjob

Something to remember about the MMPI and psych eval is what they are doing. The MMPI is used to reveal any character flaws pointing to the fact that the applicant can be a difficult person to get along with, or who doesn't handle stress very well. The questions can seem repetitive or non sensical, but they are crafted to back esch other up, and to catch someone who is answering in a manner inconsistant with their true personality.

The psych eval is used to dig deeper into those "flaws" to see where they lead. If the MMPI indicates a person becomes irritated easily when others disagree with him, the doc might try to provoke a response to see how far it goes. If the MMPI indicates that an applicant fits the Delta "Stepford" mold, then the interview is a mere formality.

An applicant may be the hottest pilot in existance, but if he turns into a screamer when things go wrong, or believes he needs no help from anyone, then he gets bounced.

That is also the purpose of the light pen test. To see if an applicant can recover from a failure, and continue on without the failure affecting performance.

80ktsClamp

Excellent summary. Every person that I know of that got the interview that had some pretty severe underlying anger issues/temper got passed over.

Klondike Bear

Anyone know how Tuesday and Wednesday went? I guess they have been interviewing all week.

Scoop

I recommend everyone interviewing take a "practice" MMPI and answer every question totally honestly. If you set off any triggers you will be briefed. Not sure if there is anything that you could do if you set off the triggers.

I took the practice test and answered as honestly as I could. I was told - good to go, and when I took the real test I did the same thing. I did not try to remember specific answers to specific questions and would not recommend this.

Scoop

kingairip

Where can you take a practice one? Thanks!

surfnski

What is y'allz's commuting policy? I.e., how many flights and backups do you have to have to not get fired?

I tried a search and all I got was, "Commuting is a choice!!!"

Thanks