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Old 01-20-2015 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by coryk
According to the info DALPA released the low-time non-military guy was 2300TT. Is that accurate?
I was hired with slightly less than 2300TT (AF heavy + GA). I know of at least one other AF heavy guy from my indoc class who had less than that, and I assume the 1510TT person from the PowerPoint slide we were shown was a fighter type. So DALPA's non-mil number might be correct.
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Old 01-20-2015 | 07:17 AM
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Hey All...

I've got 2200 TT, all jet (F-16 and T-37), 1917 PIC. My biggest thing is not having flown anything for 8 years. I just took the new ATP cert course in December and flew 12hrs in a Falcon 900 sim.

My goal is to get to Delta as soon as I can.

I was just offered a CFII position with local flight school. Flying single and multi engine props.

Was also offered an interview with Skywest.

CFII job pays double and that does matter to me. But which job would be better for getting to Delta. I think I probably have enough TT to get hired, but lack recent time. Curious what all your thoughts are on this.
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Old 01-20-2015 | 07:24 AM
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Old 01-20-2015 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bfmglobal
Hey All...

I've got 2200 TT, all jet (F-16 and T-37), 1917 PIC. My biggest thing is not having flown anything for 8 years. I just took the new ATP cert course in December and flew 12hrs in a Falcon 900 sim.

My goal is to get to Delta as soon as I can.

I was just offered a CFII position with local flight school. Flying single and multi engine props.

Was also offered an interview with Skywest.

CFII job pays double and that does matter to me. But which job would be better for getting to Delta. I think I probably have enough TT to get hired, but lack recent time. Curious what all your thoughts are on this.
Very good question, but be careful with the answers you'll get. Everybody (including me) will answer with the best of intentions but none of us truly know which is the best answer.

I believe part 121 time shows you're serious about the business and you can make it through training. It's also a risk since it is possible you could possibly fail a training event that you'd then have to list. In addition, the job isn't yours yet. I have a friend in a similar situation with similar experience to you and he screwed up the sim and didn't get the job offer.

The CFII is less risky (assuming you've already got your ticket) and as you mentioned pays better. It gets you current and qualified. Some time is better than no time, but the exact weighting of those single/multi engine hours vs. the SIC jet time you'd get at Skywest is hard to quantify.

You said the pay matters, so it looks like you're asking permission to take the CFII instead of the pain of being a new guy at Skywest, but you and I both believe deep down the Skywest job probably offers a better shot at being hired.

Good luck.
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Old 01-20-2015 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16

You said the pay matters, so it looks like you're asking permission to take the CFII instead of the pain of being a new guy at Skywest, but you and I both believe deep down the Skywest job probably offers a better shot at being hired.

Good luck.
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Very insightful and thought provoking response. Very much appreciated!
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Old 01-20-2015 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by coryk
According to the info DALPA released the low-time non-military guy was 2300TT. Is that accurate?
That person was in my class...ExpressJet FO, I believe. They had won a 737 type-rating scholarship, which was done in DAL's sim, and thus had excellent 4th-floor connections. Very nice person and humble about their good fortune.
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Old 01-20-2015 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Very good question, but be careful with the answers you'll get. Everybody (including me) will answer with the best of intentions but none of us truly know which is the best answer.

I believe part 121 time shows you're serious about the business and you can make it through training. It's also a risk since it is possible you could possibly fail a training event that you'd then have to list. In addition, the job isn't yours yet. I have a friend in a similar situation with similar experience to you and he screwed up the sim and didn't get the job offer.

The CFII is less risky (assuming you've already got your ticket) and as you mentioned pays better. It gets you current and qualified. Some time is better than no time, but the exact weighting of those single/multi engine hours vs. the SIC jet time you'd get at Skywest is hard to quantify.

You said the pay matters, so it looks like you're asking permission to take the CFII instead of the pain of being a new guy at Skywest, but you and I both believe deep down the Skywest job probably offers a better shot at being hired.

Good luck.
I agree. I think 121 time is always better. In fact I think the 121 time could help you in the future to be better prepared for 121 Delta training one day. Delta is always looking at a progression when looking at your app and it would seem that CFII is not a progression like a 121 carrier would provide. I also think my life and license is way more at risk with GA flying than it would ever be with a 121 job. Sure a training failure could be bad but highly unlikely with your background. I would not look at the money your paid today if your goal is DAL tomorrow. You can always pick up more 121 time once your hired if money is that important and they have lots of work to do if you want it.
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Old 01-20-2015 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
That person was in my class...ExpressJet FO, I believe. They had won a 737 type-rating scholarship, which was done in DAL's sim, and thus had excellent 4th-floor connections. Very nice person and humble about their good fortune.


She was in my class...ExpressJet FO, I believe. She had won a 737 type-rating scholarship, which was done in DAL's sim, and thus had excellent 4th-floor connections. Very nice person and humble about Her good fortune.

I edited it for you
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Old 01-20-2015 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
She was in my class...ExpressJet FO, I believe. She had won a 737 type-rating scholarship, which was done in DAL's sim, and thus had excellent 4th-floor connections. Very nice person and humble about Her good fortune.

I edited it for you
Why? This is needed from a guy who walked over with no interview at all?

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Old 01-20-2015 | 10:27 AM
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Why? This is needed from a guy who walked over with no interview at all?

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