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Old 03-31-2015 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tcraft
I seem to remember several people stating that they knew which tier they were placed in after application scoring. Is there a way to find this out or is it something that only the pilot selection people know?
I don't think there is a way to know exactly. They play their cards pretty close to the vest over there in pilot selection. Even if you called someone who knew and asked directly, I doubt they would tell you.
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Old 03-31-2015 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FLY6584
I'm not saying its the right decision to include Other time, but I disagree with it being the civilian equivalent of dead legging. I would say its more like the civilian equivalent of IRO time at least in my community where augmented crews were common, but one guy kept the A-code the entire flight.



In the civilian world if a three man crew crosses the pond and the Captain takes a rest break in the bunk he still logs all PIC because he was the one who signed for the jet. The same thing happens in the Air Force and I can understand why someone with the A-code who is ultimately responsible for the flight should be able to log all of the time regardless of whether it was primary, secondary, or other time.

This is correct. Unless you annotate on the 781 that you are designating another pilot as Aircraft Commander on a leg, you are PIC for 100% of the flight time as it's listed. If you are the A Code, your Other time is PIC. Think of it this way, who's taking the blame if you are the AC in the bunk and the other two pilots have a GNE?


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Old 03-31-2015 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tcraft
I seem to remember several people stating that they knew which tier they were placed in after application scoring. Is there a way to find this out or is it something that only the pilot selection people know?
I have never heard of anyone being told what tier they are in. The only way you know you are in "tier 1" is if they give the invite and it's just generally announced they are hiring from tier one. Even then that doesn't mean they may not randomly pull from tier 2 intermittently. No one really knows except the selection team.

Even though many do interviews it does not mean they are on the selection team. It appears the selection team is a much smaller group than the interview team. Spoke to a guy who does interviews and he said he doesn't know how they rank the tiers because he has recommended some and he's not sure which ones his candidates are in. Again this gentleman was on the "interview team" not the "selection team".

Just like freezingflyboy said above, even if they knew they probably wouldn't tell you, but this guy I was talking to really seemed to not know.
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Old 03-31-2015 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by lear700pilot
I have never heard of anyone being told what tier they are in. The only way you know you are in "tier 1" is if they give the invite and it's just generally announced they are hiring from tier one. Even then that doesn't mean they may not randomly pull from tier 2 intermittently. No one really knows except the selection team.

Even though many do interviews it does not mean they are on the selection team. It appears the selection team is a much smaller group than the interview team. Spoke to a guy who does interviews and he said he doesn't know how they rank the tiers because he has recommended some and he's not sure which ones his candidates are in. Again this gentleman was on the "interview team" not the "selection team".

Just like freezingflyboy said above, even if they knew they probably wouldn't tell you, but this guy I was talking to really seemed to not know.
Thanks for the input, this makes sense to me. I'd be surprised if they gave this info away but for some reason I thought I remembered people saying they knew where they were.
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Old 03-31-2015 | 11:36 AM
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You're right, there have been guys on this forum who claim to know what tier their application is in. I wonder if they met with the recruiter at a job fair, and the recruiter told them based on their resume which tier they would most likely fall into, and this has been misrepresented as being what tier they're actually in.
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Old 03-31-2015 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BrasiliaFlyer
You're right, there have been guys on this forum who claim to know what tier their application is in. I wonder if they met with the recruiter at a job fair, and the recruiter told them based on their resume which tier they would most likely fall into, and this has been misrepresented as being what tier they're actually in.
It would be nice just to know if your application has been scored.
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Old 03-31-2015 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
It would be nice just to know if your application has been scored.

Two ways to guarantee this... Attend a job fair or have a current or retired pilot send HR an email directly.
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Old 03-31-2015 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BrasiliaFlyer
Two ways to guarantee this... Attend a job fair or have a current or retired pilot send HR an email directly.
Is the email for HR buried in a manual somewhere? How would a current pilot find it? Any idea?
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Old 03-31-2015 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CL300
Is the email for HR buried in a manual somewhere? How would a current pilot find it? Any idea?

This I don't know.
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Old 03-31-2015 | 05:24 PM
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Is the email for HR buried in a manual somewhere? How would a current pilot find it? Any idea?
Go to: DeltaNet, Flt Ops, Admin, Pilot Selection, How to Recommend Someone for a Pilot Position

The instructions and email address are in there. It will actually go directly to Andy F. and not HR.
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