John Carr

And reference pre 9/11, the spread was STILL the same/similar. It's just that the flows makeup the majority of the civilian demographic. Not unlike at AA/AAG.

What, like when the flows/SSP's are done they'll go BACK to mostly mil? Not likely.....

Wow, ain't that something. A well known data point/statistic that's existed through FOUR hiring waves now can still be validate

gloopy

Yeah but the only reason for that is…well…the flows.

When the flows are over, there will likely be more civilian interviewees in proportion.

Flt1ok

Maybe they will take pity on me. I have no problem being the token.

lear700pilot

If you look at it, Military is most likely to be the minority sometime soon. Due to the cut backs and not needing as many pilots in general for Uncle Sam will keep Mil guys in a lower number. What has caused so many military to influx here lately is the ones who got out 5 years and since and no majors hiring. The only place to go were regionals and sit out there till the doors opened at the majors. There was a time, several years back, where most of the reserve FO's I flew with were former Military.

Figuring, that these guys are getting called out of the regional threshold and the with data that was put out once showing approximately 2,000 mil personnel are released per year - not all will want to fly for an airline - so just figuring 1,500 spread out over DAL, UAL, AA, FedEx, SWA, etc. I can't see how they could be the majority. I'm not quite sure how many military guys are still at the regionals but that number has to be dwindling significantly.

I believe what is or has been hurting guys like me - pure civilian regional - the most is the flow and SSP guys. Nothing against them, but that's just what is eating up the civilian side of things. It amazes me that Delta would allow an agreement with Compass that didn't require some form of interview at least like the SSP program. There are many Compass guys that would pass the interview no problem, but you know there are quite a few that wouldn't. At all airlines there are a few "sour apples" that spoil the bunch and they are usually few. Even if one doesn't pass the DAL interview that doesn't mean that individual wouldn't be a great pilot for DAL. They just didn't pass the interview for some reason or another. Most of us have seen this with someone we know that was turned down at DAL. The system though is set up to hopefully catch those who would not be a good fit and may be a "sour apple". I just don't understand why DAL doesn't have something in place to interview those who are head over heals for DAL, very qualified, and all the evidence and number of people trying to vouch for an individual proves it?

I guess in some ways the guys who feel they are getting screwed the most are the Mil guys who signed on recently and are now stuck doing UAV stuff. If they hope to fly for an airline they have to go to the aero club and rent a 172 to get time that counts!

DALMD88FO

I was the token Army guy in my class. One of the ground school instrutors was a Navy guy and was really giving the two Marines in my class a hard time. I talked to them during a break and they dimed me out for being an Army guy and asked the Instructor why he wasn't ragging on the rotorhead. He said that they never see Army guys in class so he really didn't have any material to use.

Lou Reed

Compass guys that are flow eligible passed the NWA interview (and after the merger, the DAL interview)

Scoop

Yes - it is a "real" graphic. And you are also correct about the CG.

Scoop

full of luv

Maybe they were confused because they weren't sure to include it in as military.

Navy Department?
Treasury Department?
DOT section?
DHS section?

hockeypilot44

Lol. You and I both know that isn't true.

Sputnik

Wait, what?