Delta Hiring News
03-27-2015, 07:41 AM
#7521
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Originally Posted by BrasiliaFlyer
Just remember what Glopy said. The next few years will become much more applicant friendly.
I know it's frustrating, I'm all civilian, CRJ hour check airman with about 11K tt, 7K jet pic, BS degree, internal hr email, application reviewed by a consultant, etc...
No call.
But I know that they value and prefer the military guys right now. I don't necessarily agree (since I'm not military), but I get it. Military guys and gals are a known quantity for the most part. AK knows what they've done in training, records are complete, and knows that they work hard.
Most civilian pilots can say the same thing... But to AK the military guys are a safer bet.
Over the next decade the turnover at Delta will be something like 70%. AK is tasked with the responsibility to ensure that their culture isn't lost during this process. The guys he hires now will be the captains when the tier 3 guys start to get called, and he wants to make sure the culture remains tier 1.
Just my opinion.
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I know it's frustrating, I'm all civilian, CRJ hour check airman with about 11K tt, 7K jet pic, BS degree, internal hr email, application reviewed by a consultant, etc...
No call.
But I know that they value and prefer the military guys right now. I don't necessarily agree (since I'm not military), but I get it. Military guys and gals are a known quantity for the most part. AK knows what they've done in training, records are complete, and knows that they work hard.
Most civilian pilots can say the same thing... But to AK the military guys are a safer bet.
Over the next decade the turnover at Delta will be something like 70%. AK is tasked with the responsibility to ensure that their culture isn't lost during this process. The guys he hires now will be the captains when the tier 3 guys start to get called, and he wants to make sure the culture remains tier 1.
Just my opinion.
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03-27-2015, 08:18 AM
#7522
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Originally Posted by GVGUY
Clearly, he's military. Not saying anything against Delta. However, that's what they prefer.
But since before 9/11, they've had about a 50-50 to 60-40 (both directions) of mil to civ hires.
Last year, it was 53% civilian and 47% military.
I'd be more inclined to believe that in the mega stack 5 figures of applications, the amount of mil pilots is LESS than that of all the civilian pilots overall. With the amount of mil pilots with competitive experience (IP/ER/NATOPS/Safety) is getting smaller and smaller. So in the "peer comparison" of similar demographic/background, those that have it are getting called much more quickly.
03-27-2015, 08:20 AM
#7523
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Originally Posted by Flycameron
Has anyone been hired recently with over 10,000 total hours? I had a friend in almost the same boat as you, he had 12,000 hours was a LCA but couldn't get the interview so he applied at American and was hired. I had heard that military guys average time is around 2500 and civilian guys hired average around 6500. Someone on the inside might have more accurate numbers but that's what I remember. I heard a rumor that AK doesn't like too many hours because your not as traininable, not sure if that so true. Just curious how many guys have been hired with over 10,000 hours as of late?
The least was about 2300 hours. The most was over 25,000 hours. The average was over 8500 hours. When you consider how many mil pilots DL is hiring and how the majority of them probably have well under 5000, to have an average of 8500 requires a lot of greater than 10,000 hour pilots.
I don't think its a negative at all. Reports that it is are greatly exagerated.
03-27-2015, 08:21 AM
#7524
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Guys, I thought this was posted before, but here it is again.
I have had many a regional jumpseater tell me, with 100% certainty, that Delta does not hire guys over age XX, or regional guys with more than 8K hours, 10K hours, or whatever other number you want to make up.
Bottom line - the oldest they will hire is at age 63, because they expect to get 2 years out of you after training. As you can see from the graphic, guys/gals get hired with the minimum hours as well as with 10s of thousands of hours. Apply! And don't worry about age or hours min/max numbers.
For the poster a few up who said that Delta prefers military guys because they are safer. See the graphic also. You would be right, except that military pilots were actually the minority, while the majority of guys hired were civilian. Apply! Whether you are regional or military. And don't have these inaccurate, preconceived notions that they "like" mil guys more or that they "like" a certain range of flight hours.
I know it is frustrating not getting the interview yet, but if you are qualified, your time will come. There are just a metric ****-ton of qualified guys out there right now, and they have their pick of the litter (until next year, then they will be desparate).
I have had many a regional jumpseater tell me, with 100% certainty, that Delta does not hire guys over age XX, or regional guys with more than 8K hours, 10K hours, or whatever other number you want to make up.
Bottom line - the oldest they will hire is at age 63, because they expect to get 2 years out of you after training. As you can see from the graphic, guys/gals get hired with the minimum hours as well as with 10s of thousands of hours. Apply! And don't worry about age or hours min/max numbers.
For the poster a few up who said that Delta prefers military guys because they are safer. See the graphic also. You would be right, except that military pilots were actually the minority, while the majority of guys hired were civilian. Apply! Whether you are regional or military. And don't have these inaccurate, preconceived notions that they "like" mil guys more or that they "like" a certain range of flight hours.
I know it is frustrating not getting the interview yet, but if you are qualified, your time will come. There are just a metric ****-ton of qualified guys out there right now, and they have their pick of the litter (until next year, then they will be desparate).
03-27-2015, 10:00 AM
#7526
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Is this a real graphic?! If so, I'd like to know what military branch "USCH" is. I sure hope they really didn't screw up the spelling of "USCG" (Coast Guard!). Even though 'H' is right next to 'G' on the keyboard, that's still pretty embarrassing. Proofreading is a bi+ch.
03-27-2015, 10:55 AM
#7528
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Originally Posted by gloopy
There's a myth going around that DL has a hard or soft flight time maximum. I don't think thats true. Anecdotaly, most pilots hired will almost always have a lot less than that. The military pilots are usually way less than that, and most civilian pilots are too. I saw one stat on average times from the last year of hiring.
The least was about 2300 hours. The most was over 25,000 hours. The average was over 8500 hours. When you consider how many mil pilots DL is hiring and how the majority of them probably have well under 5000, to have an average of 8500 requires a lot of greater than 10,000 hour pilots.
I don't think its a negative at all. Reports that it is are greatly exagerated.
The least was about 2300 hours. The most was over 25,000 hours. The average was over 8500 hours. When you consider how many mil pilots DL is hiring and how the majority of them probably have well under 5000, to have an average of 8500 requires a lot of greater than 10,000 hour pilots.
I don't think its a negative at all. Reports that it is are greatly exagerated.
I know in the past, with other airlines, there are non disclosed and unofficial, yet official, practices
Our high time hires have most likely been from the flow.
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03-27-2015, 11:04 AM
#7529
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Originally Posted by C130
Guys, I thought this was posted before, but here it is again.
I have had many a regional jumpseater tell me, with 100% certainty, that Delta does not hire guys over age XX, or regional guys with more than 8K hours, 10K hours, or whatever other number you want to make up.
Bottom line - the oldest they will hire is at age 63, because they expect to get 2 years out of you after training. As you can see from the graphic, guys/gals get hired with the minimum hours as well as with 10s of thousands of hours. Apply! And don't worry about age or hours min/max numbers.
For the poster a few up who said that Delta prefers military guys because they are safer. See the graphic also. You would be right, except that military pilots were actually the minority, while the majority of guys hired were civilian. Apply! Whether you are regional or military. And don't have these inaccurate, preconceived notions that they "like" mil guys more or that they "like" a certain range of flight hours.
I know it is frustrating not getting the interview yet, but if you are qualified, your time will come. There are just a metric ****-ton of qualified guys out there right now, and they have their pick of the litter (until next year, then they will be desparate).
I have had many a regional jumpseater tell me, with 100% certainty, that Delta does not hire guys over age XX, or regional guys with more than 8K hours, 10K hours, or whatever other number you want to make up.
Bottom line - the oldest they will hire is at age 63, because they expect to get 2 years out of you after training. As you can see from the graphic, guys/gals get hired with the minimum hours as well as with 10s of thousands of hours. Apply! And don't worry about age or hours min/max numbers.
For the poster a few up who said that Delta prefers military guys because they are safer. See the graphic also. You would be right, except that military pilots were actually the minority, while the majority of guys hired were civilian. Apply! Whether you are regional or military. And don't have these inaccurate, preconceived notions that they "like" mil guys more or that they "like" a certain range of flight hours.
I know it is frustrating not getting the interview yet, but if you are qualified, your time will come. There are just a metric ****-ton of qualified guys out there right now, and they have their pick of the litter (until next year, then they will be desparate).
03-27-2015, 11:32 AM
#7530
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Originally Posted by marcal
Only reason mil is minority is because of flows. Military greatly outnumber civilians at off the street interviews.
I know it's only one data point, but my class didn't have any flows and it was about 60% civilian and about 40% military. Either way, there is plenty of straight regional pilot love to go around at the Big D.
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