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#7421
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
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Is it the cog or the knowledge test that guys are getting hung up on? Or are they both looked at combined?
#7424
IMO, the cog test is a less-controllable variable. The one guy I know well who failed the cog test thinks he knows exactly when it went downhill - he just got flustered and wasn't able to recover. He'll pass next time, I'm sure, but 6 months of seniority is 500 numbers! That's going to take a lot of banana peels to recover from.
The knowledge test is something you can prep for much more quantitatively. There are definitely "discriminator" questions out there, some of which I'm convinced are placed to be time sucks, to give you the opportunity to make the poor decision to spend 5 minutes on that question instead of skipping it and driving on. Yet though just about everybody studies their posteriors off, everybody also seems to walk out thinking there will be a semi-canine offspring around a few months later who looks vaguely like the guy they saw that morning in the mirror shaving.
Prep or stay home. Say what you want to about the interview process, but if nothing else it probably does a good job of screening out the lazy folk.
#7425
You nailed this one on the head. I really don't think some people realize how hard the 91/135 world can be. Just like you stated there are some good ones but I'd be willing to say that only 20% of them fall under the "good gig" category. The pay isn't so bad at those places - depending on ones definition of "not bad pay", but it is QOL that is so bad. My last 91/135 gig only had 5 days guaranteed off per month. Even then, they could take a day if something came up. On call 24 hrs a day as well. Some places have no days off - on call 24/7 365. Anyone that works 121 for long enough gets spoiled to what we have with our contracts.
I'm still a regional guy, but my biggest complaint about my regional place when I started was pay. Everything else was so much better than my 91/135 gig and the majority of the ones I saw out there.
I'm still a regional guy, but my biggest complaint about my regional place when I started was pay. Everything else was so much better than my 91/135 gig and the majority of the ones I saw out there.
And my last 91/135 gig had zero days off per month (that is hard days off). You were to be on call 24/7 the only way you'd be guranteed a day off would be to take vacation - which you'd get after a year. This is also the same place that wanted me to sign a 4 year 40k contract for a Challanger 600 Initial. This comany has falsified records, offered to bribe the Feds, vandalized peoples aircraft, etc. to this day I have no idea how they're still in business.
#7426
I know of a few pilots (one of whom I know well, and he's a smart dude who prepped hard) who have failed the cog and a couple others who have failed on knowledge.
IMO, the cog test is a less-controllable variable. The one guy I know well who failed the cog test thinks he knows exactly when it went downhill - he just got flustered and wasn't able to recover. He'll pass next time, I'm sure, but 6 months of seniority is 500 numbers! That's going to take a lot of banana peels to recover from.
The knowledge test is something you can prep for much more quantitatively. There are definitely "discriminator" questions out there, some of which I'm convinced are placed to be time sucks, to give you the opportunity to make the poor decision to spend 5 minutes on that question instead of skipping it and driving on. Yet though just about everybody studies their posteriors off, everybody also seems to walk out thinking there will be a semi-canine offspring around a few months later who looks vaguely like the guy they saw that morning in the mirror shaving.
Prep or stay home. Say what you want to about the interview process, but if nothing else it probably does a good job of screening out the lazy folk.
IMO, the cog test is a less-controllable variable. The one guy I know well who failed the cog test thinks he knows exactly when it went downhill - he just got flustered and wasn't able to recover. He'll pass next time, I'm sure, but 6 months of seniority is 500 numbers! That's going to take a lot of banana peels to recover from.
The knowledge test is something you can prep for much more quantitatively. There are definitely "discriminator" questions out there, some of which I'm convinced are placed to be time sucks, to give you the opportunity to make the poor decision to spend 5 minutes on that question instead of skipping it and driving on. Yet though just about everybody studies their posteriors off, everybody also seems to walk out thinking there will be a semi-canine offspring around a few months later who looks vaguely like the guy they saw that morning in the mirror shaving.
Prep or stay home. Say what you want to about the interview process, but if nothing else it probably does a good job of screening out the lazy folk.
#7427
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
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