Delta Hiring News
01-04-2015 | 05:26 AM
#6421
New Hire
Joined: Mar 2014
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Hi All,
I'm a former F-16 guy who has been away from flying for a few years. I don't have current time. I'm currently working on getting back to a flying career, having recently finished the ATP.
I've always assumed that because I don't have recent time right now, I am not competitive for a job with Delta. I'm assuming I'll need to fly with a commuter to get recent time.
Is there anyone here who can shed any additional insight into this for me? Should I go ahead and submit an app for Delta anyway and just update it once I have a few hundred hours of recent time?
Thanks!
I'm a former F-16 guy who has been away from flying for a few years. I don't have current time. I'm currently working on getting back to a flying career, having recently finished the ATP.
I've always assumed that because I don't have recent time right now, I am not competitive for a job with Delta. I'm assuming I'll need to fly with a commuter to get recent time.
Is there anyone here who can shed any additional insight into this for me? Should I go ahead and submit an app for Delta anyway and just update it once I have a few hundred hours of recent time?
Thanks!
01-04-2015 | 12:47 PM
#6423
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 391
Likes: 1
From: Utah Chapter
Hi All,
I'm a former F-16 guy who has been away from flying for a few years. I don't have current time. I'm currently working on getting back to a flying career, having recently finished the ATP.
I've always assumed that because I don't have recent time right now, I am not competitive for a job with Delta. I'm assuming I'll need to fly with a commuter to get recent time.
Is there anyone here who can shed any additional insight into this for me? Should I go ahead and submit an app for Delta anyway and just update it once I have a few hundred hours of recent time?
Thanks!
I'm a former F-16 guy who has been away from flying for a few years. I don't have current time. I'm currently working on getting back to a flying career, having recently finished the ATP.
I've always assumed that because I don't have recent time right now, I am not competitive for a job with Delta. I'm assuming I'll need to fly with a commuter to get recent time.
Is there anyone here who can shed any additional insight into this for me? Should I go ahead and submit an app for Delta anyway and just update it once I have a few hundred hours of recent time?
Thanks!
Update every 60 days minimum - 30 days a better idea (even if it's just to update 12 month time).
Get a buddy to send the pilot hiring desk an email on your behalf as soon as you get 100hrs in 12 months (DAL's posted minimum).
I specifically asked AK a similar question. His answer paraphrased:
- Every situation is evaluated on its own merits.
- He understands military pilots have been unable to fly recently due to assignments.
BL: Apply. Be honest. Work hard to get 100hrs quickly. Keep your app updated. Prepare for the interview so you're ready when you get the call.
In addition to a job in the regionals, CAP is a superb way to put on hours for relatively cheap, especially if you have your CFI. That's how I managed to keep current in a non-flying job, and it was worth the effort.
01-04-2015 | 04:13 PM
#6424
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Joined: Apr 2012
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On the app, don't lie...ever...about anything. If you put a date of availability, it should be legit. As for things like hours in the past 12 months, try and remember that the app is basically scored as a whole. So, if you're a PhD Astronaut with only 10 flying hours in the last year, it'll probably even out. If you're a regular dude, you might need a few more hours. Also, the apps are scored by actual people, not some HAL computer. Try and get a buddy to give you an internal rec to make sure your app gets scored. It's half skill, half luck and half timing. Good luck everyone.
01-04-2015 | 04:31 PM
#6425
Runs with scissors
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7,847
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
On the app, don't lie...ever...about anything. If you put a date of availability, it should be legit. As for things like hours in the past 12 months, try and remember that the app is basically scored as a whole. So, if you're a PhD Astronaut with only 10 flying hours in the last year, it'll probably even out. If you're a regular dude, you might need a few more hours. Also, the apps are scored by actual people, not some HAL computer. Try and get a buddy to give you an internal rec to make sure your app gets scored. It's half skill, half luck and half timing. Good luck everyone.
01-04-2015 | 07:27 PM
#6427
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Wow, I appreciate all response to my question. Thanks!
When you talk about a reason for not being current, is there a good reason vs bad reason? Obviously a lot of military guys may be coming off a staff gig and not current. In may case I've been out for a number of years running a non-flying related business. I would guess that would rank more in the "not a good reason to be non-current"? but have no idea. Any thoughts?
I had two friends I submitted that had limited hours and both got hired. One had less than 60 hours in past year. As always, it will depend on the strength of the rest of your record and the reason for not being current.
01-04-2015 | 11:02 PM
#6428
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Joined: Apr 2012
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Skill, luck & timing...works 60% of the time, every time. My application actually contained bits of real Panther.
...sorry for that post that contributed absolutely nothing to this thread.
Good luck everyone.
...sorry for that post that contributed absolutely nothing to this thread.
Good luck everyone.
01-05-2015 | 04:11 AM
#6429
Otto
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,806
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From: Turkish Pile Driver
Wow, I appreciate all response to my question. Thanks!
When you talk about a reason for not being current, is there a good reason vs bad reason? Obviously a lot of military guys may be coming off a staff gig and not current. In may case I've been out for a number of years running a non-flying related business. I would guess that would rank more in the "not a good reason to be non-current"? but have no idea. Any thoughts?
When you talk about a reason for not being current, is there a good reason vs bad reason? Obviously a lot of military guys may be coming off a staff gig and not current. In may case I've been out for a number of years running a non-flying related business. I would guess that would rank more in the "not a good reason to be non-current"? but have no idea. Any thoughts?
As a side note, there have been very few training failures but the few they've had have mostly been due to 2 reasons (this is all 2nd hand info, I am NOT in the training department, just spent a lot of time around it recently).
1. bad attitude
2. lack of recency
The attitude is easy, I don't know how somebody could screw this up after landing such a great job but apparently it happens. The other issue they supposedly had was guys coming off long furloughs who did something other than fly. I do not know how well the left hand talks to the right and if this training issue has percolated its way into hiring decisions.
01-05-2015 | 04:59 AM
#6430
looking for underboob
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 913
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From: NYC 7ER LCA
You're right on. Involuntary staff work vs. voluntary business decision are apples and oranges. They want guys who want to fly.
As a side note, there have been very few training failures but the few they've had have mostly been due to 2 reasons (this is all 2nd hand info, I am NOT in the training department, just spent a lot of time around it recently).
1. bad attitude
2. lack of recency
The attitude is easy, I don't know how somebody could screw this up after landing such a great job but apparently it happens. The other issue they supposedly had was guys coming off long furloughs who did something other than fly. I do not know how well the left hand talks to the right and if this training issue has percolated its way into hiring decisions.
As a side note, there have been very few training failures but the few they've had have mostly been due to 2 reasons (this is all 2nd hand info, I am NOT in the training department, just spent a lot of time around it recently).
1. bad attitude
2. lack of recency
The attitude is easy, I don't know how somebody could screw this up after landing such a great job but apparently it happens. The other issue they supposedly had was guys coming off long furloughs who did something other than fly. I do not know how well the left hand talks to the right and if this training issue has percolated its way into hiring decisions.
#2 I've heard about were guys who came back from 10 years of sitting behind a desk. The SIM was doable but line flying and landings got the best of them.
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