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Old 10-26-2014 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Then how did all the Auburn folks get hired?

Steve Dickson gave a lounge briefing last month on the hiring process. While the weight of the metrics isn't public, the things that he emphasized were those that differentiated a candidate from the pack. He specifically mentioned where an applicant went to college, how long it took to finish, degree and GPA were weighed heavily. He also said they were looking for leadership, volunteerism and service (all three of any type) to differentiate candidates. He also said that attention to detail was a key differentiator - multiple misspellings, failure to do timely updates, unexplained gaps in an app all were things that put guys into tier 2.

FWIW, and good luck all.
All the talk about weighting of the different degrees and where you went is humorous since the SSP's aren't required to have one. So there really is no answer/standard.
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Old 10-26-2014 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
All the talk about weighting of the different degrees and where you went is humorous since the SSP's aren't required to have one. So there really is no answer/standard.
Serious question. Do you know many SSP candidates without a degree that didn't have other significant differentiators (LCA, Instructor, management, volunteerism, etc.) that got the job? I'm told by my friends at Endeavor that the initial SSP's had a very low success rate and that the rate is currently around 50%. They're not exactly high on the SSP process.
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Old 10-26-2014 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Serious question. Do you know many SSP candidates without a degree that didn't have other significant differentiators (LCA, Instructor, management, volunteerism, etc.) that got the job? I'm told by my friends at Endeavor that the initial SSP's had a very low success rate and that the rate is currently around 50%. They're not exactly high on the SSP process.
Right now most of the other candidates have all those boxes checked plus the four year degree. My point is why the extreme emphasis on where, what kind and what was your gpa, when not all candidates have to have it. I don't believe a 4year degree makes you a better pilot, however it does show that you wanted to be a Delta pilot as it has, at least in recent history, been a hard requirement.
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Old 10-26-2014 | 04:48 PM
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Ok, tomorrow - Monday - is a new day! The beginning a new week!!!!

I'm going to be checking my Inbox every moment of the day like I have been for the past eight years!!!! Maybe Delta will send me an invite!

I'm excited for what the week holds.......... sigh.............

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Old 10-26-2014 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Right now most of the other candidates have all those boxes checked plus the four year degree. My point is why the extreme emphasis on where, what kind and what was your gpa, when not all candidates have to have it. I don't believe a 4year degree makes you a better pilot, however it does show that you wanted to be a Delta pilot as it has, at least in recent history, been a hard requirement.
OTS apps are different from the SSP because Delta has the employee records of the SSP candidates. The degree is one of the tools used to verify the unknown quality of the candidate, whereas with the SSP, Delta knows the quality of the candidate directly.
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Old 10-26-2014 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Right now most of the other candidates have all those boxes checked plus the four year degree. My point is why the extreme emphasis on where, what kind and what was your gpa, when not all candidates have to have it. I don't believe a 4year degree makes you a better pilot, however it does show that you wanted to be a Delta pilot as it has, at least in recent history, been a hard requirement.


I agree with you that it is a bit odd that the flows are not required to meet DAL off the street hiring minimums (4 year degree) but who says DAL is putting an "extreme emphasis" on anything in particular?

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Old 10-26-2014 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
I agree with you that it is a bit odd that the flows are not required to meet DAL off the street hiring minimums (4 year degree) but who says DAL is putting an "extreme emphasis" on anything in particular?

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Yes they are. All flows have a 4 year degree.
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Old 10-26-2014 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Yes they are. All flows have a 4 year degree.
Yet not all the SSP people hired had a degree.
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Old 10-26-2014 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Yet not all the SSP people hired had a degree.
I don't now about that. I still have doubts about the "vault" letter. I was just correcting someone who was talking about flows. Flows have the degree. PM me the name of one SSP who doesn't have a degree. I don't know of any.
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Old 10-26-2014 | 08:31 PM
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I don't now about that. I still have doubts about the "vault" letter. I was just correcting someone who was talking about flows. Flows have the degree. PM me the name of one SSP who doesn't have a degree. I don't know of any.
The vault letter is real, they have hired guys without the degree.
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