Originally Posted by gloopy

You've obviously paid some dues. And that's awesome. It really is. I'd value that in an applicant. A lot. Not only do I like this, I think that DL thinks they like it too. A lot. They will want to know about it. So put it all on your app. The banality of it all, that you resent so deeply, actually works in your favor. Of course. To some extent everything in an interview outside of bare bones minimum regulatory requirements is arbitraty to some degree. Or at least isn't a 100.00000% catch all. But that's not the point. Its about trying to get 99 point something and then seeing how many more 9's you can put after the decimal. Yes its somewhat arbitrary. But you know what? And you may not want to accept this. But it works and it works very well. No, its not 100.00000%. Nothing is. But the over all system works very well. So? Seriously. So? Instead of fighting something you have zero ability to change you could have spent the same number of pages learning about the process (and filling out your app). I believe you believe that. You have definately paid dues. No one can deny that. But you have NOT paid the dues of any given company unless and until you 100% accept what they require of their applicants, and you comply with their requirements. I know that you know that you'll never change their hearts and minds by simply resisting what they ask. As if one day they will have an epiphany and be all "oh wait, its YOU! why didn't you say so! although you only did about half of what we asked on your app, we're waiving pretty much the entire process because of the dues you've paid! when can you start?" So far so good. Actually your history is a bit off, but that's OK. It doesn't matter if you "believe" in psych tests or not. Its a requirement and your angst over it isn't going to change anything. Any. Thing. Yes and no. College, even vague degrees, used to be an element of intellectual finishing. Now the opposite is largely the case. Its where children go to extend their childhoods and where parents send their retirements to live vicariously through their children. You will find few critics of college more than me. But they require it. Period. Period. Agreed. And in most cases pilots do. The DL panel, the most critical and toughest part, is 2/3 pilots. The knowledge part is 100% pilot. The cog test is geared to pilot related things. And like it or not, and while its not perfect, it doe generally work. At least as good or better than some idiotic arbitrary "sim ride" where they throw you in a plane you've never flown before (and if you tried in real life it would be highly illegal) to prove you are such an awesome pilot. The process is for pilots by pilots and you will be judged by pilots. Well its not. Your opinion (on this) is wrong. Good. That's OK. For long distance thigns like that, its OK to approximate as long as you are honest about it. Put it in the comment section or at the very least make it clear in the interview that you don't remember the exact dates for that summer job 30 years ago. "It was between junior and senior year in HS and I'm pretty sure I started in June and quit in August, so I put the 15th of each month but could be wrong about that." But stopping at 10 because you think that should be enough isn't going to cut it. Again do your best. and list everything you can remember, and approximate dates as best you can. Get your driver record too if you can. Well you're not. Seriously. And you're definatly not if you don't: 1. Have the required degree 2. Don't fill out the entire app to THEIR satisfaction Finish your degree, finish the app, and lose that last part and you will do fine.

Originally Posted by Falcon20

Has anyone heard if the hiring that has been approved through April has been extended?

If so at what rate?

Does contract negotiation hinder the hiring forecast?

All I've heard is the 125/mo through April.

Originally Posted by Oberon

Unofficial word is "hiring indefinitely", but you can't fund "indefinitely" so it gets approved several months at a time.

Retirements haven't kicked in, every update we see says "Network added more flying at the last minute", and there is some planned aircraft growth so I think you can plan on significant hiring in the near term.

Originally Posted by Erdude32

Prediction: 1200 for the year

Originally Posted by Flying Elvis

I like that prediction.

And if my "buy jelly donuts for all the Captains" plan works to accelerate health-related retirements, we may get even more!