So only a couple of guys from the Nov 28th interview got the April 3rd invite? How do they decide who gets to go to class first? SSN?

 

Alphabetical to invite. Within class is last 4 of ssn.

 

So far, 4 of 9 28 Nov CJOs have gotten the invite. Not in alphabetical order.

 

Wrong. Everything is by last 4


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That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Sailing keeps pointing to the official projected count, which I understand and there is value in that. But we've put out an official number every year of this hiring cycle that has, in every case, been exceeded by hundreds.

We all know that, as of now, the official number of approved and funded hires is 700. What we're trying to figure out is will that number stick, and if so, why is this year going to be substantially less than the last 3 years, and the only year not to exceed the projections?

If that's the case, if the rest of the industry throttling back a bit as well? Or are we about to get creamed by our JV's which is a significant potential concern.

We all know that 700 is the official number "at this time" etc. That's not the point.

700 is still a nice number to bring on board, and obviously every year can't be a record setting year. But this is the year when retirements really begin to start going ballistic, not to mention the training bubble will only increase with the 2 new fleets coupled with 2 waves of displacements (at least). Earlier this year I've heard 700 official but likely going over by hundreds again, just like we heard every year this cycle. Now no one is saying anything about going over. Not saying its time to panic, but a sudden slow down is something to watch, especially if its driven by the ability and desire to outsource.

 

More specifically, inverse of last 4.
9999 gets first call, 0000 gets last.

 

Anybody has info on how many CJOs were offered in these following interview dates? December 1, January 26, January 30, January 31....

 

First I don't keep saying it's 700. Flight operations has put that out in print as the hiring plan for 2017. Second the reason for the reduction in hiring is simple. We are done migrating flying from DCI to the mainline. Growth going forward is planned at 1 to 2% for the mainline. It's pretty easy to see what the hiring numbers will be. 2% growth his year plus 400 retirement. That works out to about 700 pilots. Next year we have 600 retirements expected so plan on 900 pilots.

 

Sailing,

How do you come up with 600 retirements for 2018 when when the Jan 2017 retirement list says 368 age 65 retirements? Seems a little high to me.

Denny

 

At the rate I'm moving up each month I think we'll be well above that targeted 700 this year.