Last I heard we are trying, but not sure if possible right now. Hopefully someone else has current info. My buddy just started class this week with around 36 in it and he'll have a 3 week wait for sim to start.

They had reduced the hiring at the end of last quarter. Planned for this year was 700 total. Those numbers are always subject to change.

Thanks for the info guys...that's what I found out so far...

Trying to figure out the size of the pool and expected class date.

Based on the numbers published on the most recent flying ops update:

In 2016, a total of 1187 CJOs were offered and 1126 started indoc class (not sure if it means received class date or physically started indoc). That means a total of 61 rolled over to 2017.

As of Jan 31. A total of 40 CJOs were offered and 78 started indoc class. Including the 61 from 2016 it means 23 swimmers not including those got the CJO in February....

Any thoughts? More accurate info?

What type of changes?


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I think you might be neglecting the fact that there was a backlog of 2015 CJOs that didn't get into Indoc until well into 2016. A friend of mine received his CJO in August or September 2015 and didn't get a class date until April 2016.

There's a lot more than 23 people in the pool. They're on Nov 14th interviews getting March 27th class dates

Not all 61 were carry-overs. Some who are hired go to other airlines. I know of a couple.

Is that just a budgetary difference with how far they plan out the hiring? Its been common for them to tout the approval numbers for the funding for X number of pilots through a fixed date in the future, but to then expand on that for additional month not previously included. If, OTOH, projected hiring has fallen to 700 for the year, that would represent a pretty big change and a highly concerning bellwether, especially in light of the new wave of scab FoC airlines, dual subsidized ME3 and highly suspicious JV ambitions.

I don't think it's a big change from last year. A corporate decision was made to increase staffing on the domestic aircraft. That's done now. I suspect that accounted for 3-400 pilots hired last year. Hiring this year will be heavily dependent on what happens with the MD88 fleet.

I still can't see how all the 88's could be parked in 2-3 years without a sizable net reduction in domestic flying. I didn't think there were nearly enough 739/321 orders remaining (plus the eventual C series) to cover 130 or so 88's during that short of a timeframe. Especially since it doesn't even remove a category since the 90's will stay. Earlier last month they were saying 900 were "funded" and a bit more was likely. To now say 700 is a sizable cut from just over a month ago.