Originally Posted by Starcheck102 (Post 1716251)

The Contract Survey will open next week. Over the course of September, Donatelli will visit every base to encourage members to participate.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1716363)

Too bad all the "encouragement" in the world won't make DALPA release the survey results.

Carl

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1716367)

Then by all means, don't participate.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1716374)

Who said I won't be participating? I would just like to see the results at some point. It's unfortunate that will not happen.

Carl

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1716395)

Meh.. I still don't care what YOU want. Why is it so important for you to know what I want? It won't change my mind in the least.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1716406)

Knowing the results would provide a metric by which we members could measure the effectiveness of our union's negotiating capacity.

Carl

Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy (Post 1716422)

I struggled with this myself for about 15 seconds. Unfortunately releasing survey info to us also releases it to management.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1716)

...management will have at least a general idea of the results the second DALPA gets them our opener.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1716435)

Sorry, I'm not buying that.

"Constructive engagement" being what it is, management will have at least a general idea of the results the second DALPA gets them.

Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1716250)

As 80 mentioned, no two humans are alike. Pilot are pressurized/depressurized with each flight, bombarded with radiation that passes through the skin of the airplane and UV light that comes directly through the front windshield for more time than is healthy (a little bit of sunlight is healthy...too much is damaging).

Pilots sometimes go from extreme heat to extreme cold, develop poor circulation (especially in the legs) from sitting too much, do not typically get adequate nutrition due to tight schedules or food not being readily available....or eating junk food to fill the void.

Other factors, include higher stress levels going into unfamiliar locations, dealing with WX/unruly pax and experience increased heart rate/stress during the take off and landing phase of flight which all hammer away at the bodies healthy function. Common sense says pilots should get more restorative sleep than the suggested guidelines to make up for these things that deplete/break down the human body and cause increase physical/mental fatigue.

Let me add one other item that affects the quality of sleep. It's a complete crap shoot knowing what the bed you will be sleeping in is like. The sleep studies I have seen always used the same controlled environment. Pilots don't know if the room will have a pillow that crank your neck to 45 degrees, a hard/medium/soft bed that breaths or makes you sweat, air conditioning system you can't get dialed in the same as back home. Needless to say, many things working against the standard here.