Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1718340)

If we reduce profit sharing it is game over. C2015 will be a repeat of C2012 and completely cost neutral.

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1718293)

Talk amongst yourselves.

I'll give you a topic. Rhode Island -- it's neither a road nor an island.

Discuss...

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1718164)

Shouldn't it have tried to do just that Alan? Shouldn't it have (at a minimum) provided us with a truly fair and balanced look?...

...This is just one example that shows we didn't get that. And the survey opens tomorrow. Why would my union do this Alan?

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1718269)

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1718269)

...I'm having trouble imagining how you provide a full look at each on a page or two of a comparison.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1718344)

And please explain how being cost neutral is a bad thing.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1718344)

What does that mean? And please explain how being cost neutral is a bad thing.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1718148)

That dude is a real people person ain't he. :eek:



Easy, and this is at least the tenth time I've told you this. They didn't give us $1 billion. You guys have made that number up out of whole cloth by adding gains without accounting for losses. Management has consistently described our contract as "cost neutral." But then they went further by stating: "The additional savings realized from the pilot's contract will allow us to fund initiatives for the benefit of other Delta employees." Then they followed through by recently announcing that all employees at Delta have been returned to their pre-bankruptcy wages...except the pilots.

There's no question that our contract cost the company nothing when it's costs are balanced against its savings. No question. But there is mounting evidence that shows it may have been close to benefit neutral to us when it's increased wage rates are balanced against its concessions.


Carl

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1718371)

I cannot find the words to respond to a post like that.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1718344)

What does that mean? And please explain how being cost neutral is a bad thing.

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1718371)

I cannot find the words to respond to a post like that.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1718375)

Then you should just admit that your post is just your typical turd throwing. "Cost neutral" has become some kind of flag you and Carl like to wave that means nothing and is just a way to try and get the high emotion/low information people to buy into your propaganda. Too bad, because I think you are a smart guy yet you hold onto that tactic.

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1718369)

You just said that to make my head explode, right? :D

Did you forget we took a 42% pay cut, lost our pension, and had thousands of our jobs outsourced resulting in a full decade of stagnation... and today our rates are STILL 34% below the buying power we had before the pay cuts? Of course you didn't! Now, explain to me how being cost neutral is a good thing. ;)