I think there are too many unknown future variables to accurately assess that one way or the other. So it boils down to what each of us thinks is best for his/her own individual situation.

For me personally, I've been at rock bottom of the M88A category for over 7 years. I only have 10 years left in my career and I have no desire to fly a different airplane. So my plan is to stay on the 88 for my remaining 10 years and hopefully be very senior on it within a few more years. I don't mind being "productive" when I'm at work. In fact, I would prefer that over sitting around.

For me, it comes down to how many days I have to work versus how much money I make. Retirement is coming together nicely, so I'm not looking for improvements to that other than the automatic improvement I would get with increased pay (15% company contribution). Right now, I'm having to work too many days (probably averaging about 18 days per month) to get even remotely close to what I would like to make. I'd like to see that number go down to more like 15. But I don't mind flying more hours during those 15 days. What is imperative to me is that the pay rates, work rules, or some combination improve to the point where my W2 is approximately equivalent to the W2 of an M88A in 2004 adjusted for inflation. That is my objective. There are probably 12,000 other objectives... some very similar to mine and some completely different. But I'll bet W2 improvement is pretty darn high for a large majority.

Be careful. Johnso29 will be along shortly to ban you! :eek:

Oh, I almost forgot... you and he are pretty much on the same page so you're safe. :rolleyes:

Ha! Well played.

I don't get the analogy.

They asked about the things the Delta pilots care most about and published the results.

Buzz and the boys killed the forum and refuse to let us see the secret LOA on early outs before the vote.

They will never win.

DPA posted a letter where they stated contract 2012 was worse then a woman in China having a late term baby pulled partly out of their body and it's skull crushed. How anyone could put a DPA tag on their bag after that eludes me.

Oh yeah I remember now.

Facts:
Carl is alive and well.
I wrote that Carl will be back; that we will not have the opportunity to miss him.

You create your own false "inference."

If Carl so chooses, he can set up an alter ego and get back in. Plenty of folks do that; not that I am suggesting a violation of the TOS. Just stating the obvious.

Is that all you got sailing? That communication put out by DPA was a mistake and in poor taste. TC retracted it, acknowledged it was a mistake, and apologized.

When have you ever seen your beloved union (or management, not that there's any difference) admit a mistake and apologize? Answer: NEVER

One of ALPA's biggest problems is its inability to admit it made a mistake. I don't expect them or anyone else to be perfect. Owning up to past mistakes would make ALPA stronger, they view any such acknowledgement as weakness.

Why you continue to bring this up eludes me. TC retracted and apologized. When someone owns up to their mistakes why do you insist on continuing to beat them over the head with it?

Regarding this issue, TC garners more respect than you from me. He was man enough to take responsibility. You are apparently too weak to accept his apology and move on.