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tsquare 09-26-2014 06:39 AM
Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 1734625)
I have no intention of getting in the middle of this--but, as a new guy struggling to understand all of the various issues discussed ("disgust"? ;)) on this thread... yes, I would like some examples. Please.

Honest question.
Good luck getting any honesty from Carl.

finis72 09-26-2014 06:42 AM
Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1734850)
Agreed. I expect his next post to be requesting info on crash pads near Herndon.
I don't agree with a poster so I'll just label him, real nice. Different opinions are what makes APC interesting. We all have a view and how long we have been at Delta doesn't make our view any more important. This kid has every right to express his/her views because C2015 is going to be just as important to him as it is to any of the anti DALPA crowd.

Check Essential 09-26-2014 07:06 AM
Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 1734892)
Should I read anything into the fact that all three examples you cite were about scope protection (lack thereof)? Is that simply the most vulnerable point, in your opinion, or just the first three that popped into your head, or...?
Scope is the area where ALPA has always been most willing to be "constructive".

Whenever management is in violation, or about to be in violation, they just "engage" the union.

Check Essential 09-26-2014 07:15 AM
Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1734899)
I don't agree with a poster so I'll just label him, real nice. Different opinions are what makes APC interesting. We all have a view and how long we have been at Delta doesn't make our view any more important. This kid has every right to express his/her views because C2015 is going to be just as important to him as it is to any of the anti DALPA crowd.
This is tackle football around here when the subject is money and union politics.

Oberon has been holding his own. I'm rooting for him.
I don't agree with him, but I'm rooting for him.

I hope more new guys will wade into the fray.

Flamer 09-26-2014 07:43 AM
Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1734899)
I don't agree with a poster so I'll just label him, real nice. Different opinions are what makes APC interesting. We all have a view and how long we have been at Delta doesn't make our view any more important. This kid has every right to express his/her views because C2015 is going to be just as important to him as it is to any of the anti DALPA crowd.
You missed the point that something is rotten in Denmark. Scambo noticed it too.

tsquare 09-26-2014 08:07 AM
Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1734961)
You missed the point that something is rotten in Denmark. Scambo noticed it too.
Riiiiiiight. They guy's articulate and makes good points without the usual mudslinging that goes on around here.. and you make this gargantuan leap:
Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1734850)
Agreed. I expect his next post to be requesting info on crash pads near Herndon.
Wait... it's Lumberg... no.. probaly Moak hisself. You guys crack me up

Hillbilly 09-26-2014 08:21 AM
Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1734961)
You missed the point that something is rotten in Denmark. Scambo noticed it too.

I must have missed it too. What exactly do you mean?

TeddyKGB 09-26-2014 08:22 AM
Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1734895)
Good luck getting any honesty from Carl.
Pot meet Kettle :rolleyes: You two represent both extremes. It's like listening to Obama argue with Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. Far left or far right, both extremes are whack jobs. Find some common ground and move on guys.

Flamer 09-26-2014 08:24 AM
Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1734977)
Riiiiiiight. They guy's articulate and makes good points without the usual mudslinging that goes on around here.. and you make this gargantuan leap:


Wait... it's Lumberg... no.. probaly Moak hisself. You guys crack me up
I never said that. But, my money would be on a previous/current management/ALPA positions. You obviously may choose to believe as you will. I don't care. But something doesn't add up.

tsquare 09-26-2014 08:38 AM
Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1734989)
Pot meet Kettle :rolleyes: You two represent both extremes. It's like listening to Obama argue with Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. Far left or far right, both extremes are whack jobs. Find some common ground and move on guys.
I have never posted anything on here that I have ever stated as anything but my opinion. Carl has repeatedly says he knows people, he has all the documents... crap like that, yet when confronted time and time again with facts that he MAKES STUFF UP.. he goes into attack mode... apologists, operatives... yada yada yada. Mine is opinion, his is BS.


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