Yes he was! :D

No tears were shed, he was a tool from the first day of class, constantly arguing with the instructor about how the 727 systems worked, etc.

How he got hired in the first place was a mystery to all of us. :rolleyes:

Great advice!!!

The only problem I see is that Oberon is just talking on a semi- anonymous message board. He is expressing his opinions and not attacking anyone on a personal level or face to face. Yes he is a Newbie ( So am I...senior to him by the way) .

Oberon has been to the right of em and he also has been over my shoulder in the cockpit and while he may come across to some on here as a spoiled brat he is a professional pilot who at the end of the day wants the same thing as the rest of us.....

That's the problem with the internet, stuff can be quoted out of context, skewed and reposted, etc. and you never know who's reading this stuff, so it would be wise to keep your mouth shut (or fingers quiet in this case) no matter what you 'really think', until off probation.

The Timbo is wise. 400 hours is the blink of an eye, and an hour in the CPO is an eternity.

Get through probation, then vent your spleen.

And not just on the internet, remember, each Captain who flies with a new hire is going to fill out a new hire critique. Best not to pizz them off either! ;)

Additionally, we all get the benefit of the flow down if ever needed. Even if its never used during a downturn, there is a strong cost based deterrent to progressively flushing and filling an entire seniority list of yet another fleet type, especially since it would be in dynamic real time progression for the duration of any potential furlough.

They'd go from a cost competitive feeder to an exponential cost supernova overnight, likely with no way to staff the virtual "airline" once recalls began, so recalls would have to be accelerated to shift more flying to mainline, which would exacerbate the problem. :cool:

We get a benefit from the flows for sure. Its a huge deterrant for furloughs and displacements and that benefits us all, as well as significant job security for the most junior among us.

99% is pretty good. Everyone should interview, no flows and try to make it 100%. We could have avoided picking up one of the posters here.

Isn't it the job of a newhire to inject new perspective? These people arrive at Delta equipped with a lot of experience and knowledge, though not always Delta-specific.

The question is how they behave in this APC conversation. Here, they are judged on what they say, and the credibility of their posts, not their company longevity. I'm all for relentlessly pounding on someone for writing like a freakin' idiot, but let's not get into the habit of discounting newhires because they're newhires.

Everyone is welcome into the arena. Just be prepared to die... I didn't read Oberon's stuff, so I'm not sure whether it deserves a thumbs-down. Let the crowd decide...

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Carl

I seldom do this, but I'll take your word for it. I haven't done my homework on Oberon's exchanges. I don't even know the topic.

I'm only reacting to the "sit-down-and-shut-up-newbie" theme I perceive in a couple of threads.

On the other hand, whether you're new or not, if you mouth off, whether in the real or virtual world, and you don't know what you're talking about, don't be surprised to see lions and gladiators.