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Carl Spackler 05-21-2015 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1885725)
As far as contract 2012 I can't say I was a strong advocate for it...

Unreal. You were right there with all the usual suspects selling a YES vote just as hard as you could.

Carl

D Mantooth 05-21-2015 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1885812)
Let me guess: You're grateful for Harwood, White, Donutelli, Hazzard, etc? :rolleyes:

Yup DALPA working on behalf of pilots. [face palm]

Carl

Yes. Very much so.

D Mantooth 05-21-2015 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1885818)
The actions of many in the MEC administration that went around our reps and ignored our process have a much higher price.

Carl

You can repeat that lie as often as you want, but it won't change it to the truth.

Didn't happen. I was there. You weren't.

Army80 05-21-2015 05:15 PM

They happen to be in a rush now. And now you know why they're in a rush.

Carl[/QUOTE]


Carl,

I think they are in a rush because:

1. They are the only company in the world that has 80,000 employees standing to get a bonus that could equal 3 months pay.

2. The investment world looks at this over payment of the help the way we would view a gear up landing.

3. They can't walk this program back for the non union folks unless we go first.

We can use this situation as an opportunity to get back to our 2004 pay rates +. We are in a good spot. If we have a good trade, we can get a big bump. If they can't come to an agreement, we get a mongo bonus check. The "time value of saying no" might be pretty big.

Just my thoughts...

boog123 05-21-2015 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 1885883)
You can repeat that lie as often as you want, but it won't change it to the truth.

Didn't happen. I was there. You weren't.

Well that settles it then. It didn't happen, my reps were "mistaken".

D Mantooth 05-21-2015 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1885890)
Well that settles it then. It didn't happen, my reps were "mistaken".


Or lying to you. I'm not sure.

boog123 05-21-2015 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 1885892)
Or lying to you. I'm not sure.

Yeah, they are not known for lying. I don't know you, therefore I can't say what your integrity level is.

I'll stick with what my reps said...

Carl Spackler 05-21-2015 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 1885883)
You can repeat that lie as often as you want, but it won't change it to the truth.

Didn't happen. I was there. You weren't.

Look tooth, there's no question it happened. None. Sycophants such as yourself repeating the party line won't change the actions of O'Malley's MEC administration.

I think it's important that you continue this behavior however. Some folks here think I'm too hard on people like you. Now they get to see blatant lying and history revision for themselves.

Keep it up ace.

Carl

D Mantooth 05-21-2015 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1885896)
Yeah, they are not known for lying. I don't know you, therefore I can't say what your integrity level is.

I'll stick with what my reps said...

Well, I guess I'll just assume they have bad memories!

Believing them is of course your right, and you don't know me from an anonymous webboard.

I'll stick with my first-hand recollection.

I'd only ask you to consider that while some reps felt the process wasn't followed, most know that it was. I'd also ask that you consider that the discrepancy might have come from a misunderstanding on one side or the other, rather than something nefarious.

Carl Spackler 05-21-2015 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 1885905)
Well, I guess I'll just assume they have bad memories!

Believing them is of course your right, and you don't know me from an anonymous webboard.

I'll stick with my first-hand recollection.

I'd only ask you to consider that while some reps felt the process wasn't followed, most know that it was. I'd also ask that you consider that the discrepancy might have come from a misunderstanding on one side or the other, rather than something nefarious.

Yeah, that must be it. O'Malley's admins were rightfully ousted by the reps for their actions during C2012...but it was just a big misunderstanding.


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Carl


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