Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1886826)

I do disagree because it actually empowers the negotiators. Most importantly, it keeps everyone honest and hurts their ability to cut side deals in the shadows. Regardless, there's absolutely no excuse for not releasing survey results after the contract is ratified by pilots. Yet the union's position is to never release them. That's simply stubborn arrogance.



Carl

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1886747)

Harwood is the last person that should be near the negotiating table. He's great with numbers, but his pride and emotional attachment to his product could be disastrous.

Originally Posted by Falcon7 (Post 1886814)

I guess that explains the unanimous vote he received to be a committee chairman. :eek:

Originally Posted by Dorfman (Post 1886825)

I hope you are right. Unfortunately I have heard different, if has and continues to hold the line I will fully support him. What I was told by someone close to the situation is he was more interested in what the ATL reps had to say. I have also seen a few email responses and was less than impressed.

I have recently heard he has realigned himself recently after some recall talk.

I will be at the meeting on the first and ask him what he supports

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1886835)

Yes, the unanimous vote to be the Strategic Planning Committee chair. So explain again how that makes Clamp wrong for his concern about Harwood being anywhere near the NEGOTIATING TABLE?

Carl

Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1886830)

Carl, you selectively read my post.

Because the union is in ongoing negotiations; our survey is used as a guiding document as time goes on. It's not a star chamber issue. Although it may seem like that I think there is a good reason for keeping them closely held.

Originally Posted by Falcon7 (Post 1886814)

I guess that explains the unanimous vote he received to be a committee chairman. :eek:

Originally Posted by Raging white (Post 1886639)

Still waiting for you to put to rest your claim that Carl was lying when he stated you were a rep during C2012. What were your dates of service, so we can make some credibility judgements on both your claims of lying. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1886777)

He's good at data gathering and as a subject matter expert. He successfully gets reps to think he's invaluable in that role. Once inside, he works to destabilize, divide and build a team of support. Once he has that, he always goes too far and gets fired for bad actions and absolutely horrific interpersonal skills. Right now, he's the defacto MEC chairman now that Donutelli has proven to be worthless.

He has a strong set of supporters despite the fact he has an exceedingly low opinion of line pilots. Read back through some of his posts here for review.

Carl

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1886747)

Harwood is the last person that should be near the negotiating table. He's great with numbers, but his pride and emotional attachment to his product could be disastrous.