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Check Essential 05-23-2015 11:06 AM

Flamer-
Check your private messages.

TenYearsGone 05-23-2015 11:19 AM

When a name shows up so many times and many bow down and idolize, I step back, observe, read and question. One name in recent history burned a lot of smart and educated investors/markets. The sales spin machine touted: "No one could do better, no one had better data and the products were a win-win". You might think I am talking about Madoff, but I am not. Im talking about the excellent :) money making tool called "derivatives" which bundled a load of crap and sold it off to unsuspecting yet educated investors and governments. You know what happened next, right? We sit here today in the aftermath.

Be very careful when people claim they are experts. They are humans, their goals and objectives might seem to be pure but in the long run GREED, POWER and POLITICS are at play with a majority of them.

Im not implying my opinion is about anyone person. I am just making sure you take this TA serious. Even if it costs $500-600, go to a neutral party/labor attorney and have them decipher it for you.

TEN

BenderRodriguez 05-23-2015 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1887125)
In addition to that, we were told that many pilots wanted to fly domestically so they could get more time instead of languishing at min guarantee. While its hard to believe someone would want to work 85ish hours to make 85ish hours versus exactly zero hours to make 75ish hours is mind blowing…yet sadly probably true to some degree.

It's called being a professional. They are ALL, every last one of them, new to the airplane that they now find themselves on. I for one find it very refreshing that they are willing to work a little more to actually become better pilots.

gzsg 05-23-2015 11:39 AM

I didn't see more DCI scope relief coming.

Here comes more 76 seat jets and possibly unlimited 70 seat jets.

And the sales job? We are parking all the 50 seaters!

I guess I'm just old school and I don't get it.

Why would we give up mainline flying during record profits?

Why wouldn't our DALPA leaders ensure these 70/76 seat jets come to mainline?

Any reps who vote for this should be recalled and deprogrammed.

This is a historical mistake.

pilotstats 05-23-2015 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1887192)
Awful lot of unnecessary words used to try and redefine your posting history. Anyone here can go back and read all 11 of your posts to determine how hard you're working to trade away profit sharing. They'll make their own judgments...as I have.

Carl

No, it's your move deuce. I haven't done as you allege and my posts reflect that. Prove your argument. I'll stand by my words. Will you?

shiznit 05-23-2015 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1887237)
I didn't see more DCI scope relief coming.

Here comes more 76 seat jets and possibly unlimited 70 seat jets.

And the sales job? We are parking all the 50 seaters!

I guess I'm just old school and I don't get it.

Why would we give up mainline flying during record profits?

Why wouldn't our DALPA leaders ensure these 70/76 seat jets come to mainline?

Any reps who vote for this should be recalled and deprogrammed.

This is a historical mistake.

Way to throw grenades with nothing to back it up.... That's a non-starter even amongst the moderate reps. This is all pablum tossed out by a known fear monger. Just stop with the rumor nonsense.

sailingfun 05-23-2015 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1887245)
Way to throw grenades with nothing to back it up.... That's a non-starter even amongst the moderate reps. This is all pablum tossed out by a known fear monger. Just stop with the rumor nonsense.

The first proposals in section 1 were exchanged on 20 May. We have not even given the company a reply yet. Perhaps the rumors are about rumors on what might be in our rumored reply based on rumors of what might have been in managements opener!

80ktsClamp 05-23-2015 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1887237)
I didn't see more DCI scope relief coming.

Here comes more 76 seat jets and possibly unlimited 70 seat jets.

And the sales job? We are parking all the 50 seaters!

I guess I'm just old school and I don't get it.

Why would we give up mainline flying during record profits?

Why wouldn't our DALPA leaders ensure these 70/76 seat jets come to mainline?

Any reps who vote for this should be recalled and deprogrammed.

This is a historical mistake.

What is wrong with you? Do you just make up something new each day to throw up against the wall in order to try to rile people up?

Sink r8 05-23-2015 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1887372)
What is wrong with you? Do you just make up something new each day to throw up against the wall in order to try to rile people up?

Pay banding. It's a done deal. You're just going to have to trust me on that.

You mean like that?

80ktsClamp 05-23-2015 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1887375)
Pay banding. It's a done deal. You're just going to have to trust me on that.

You mean like that?

A little bit. :D

Yelling and screaming just to yell and scream waters down when it is actually time to yell and scream.


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