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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1886798)
Try again ace. While we line pukes will never see the survey results, our reps and Donutelli have. Both our reps and Donutelli have publicly stated that the pilot survey was clear in that they said do NOT touch profit sharing.
Interesting that you're still here working as hard as you can to make the case for giving away profit sharing. You're not only enthused about it, you're working as hard as you can to make the case for it. It's almost all you've talked about since you joined a few weeks ago. Interesting how we've gone from Donutelli's "World's Greatest Contract" to this operative describing a "suitable" contract. What a surprise. Carl Carl. Your direct honest, non condescending tone is always great to read. I would just offer that since we are in constant negotiations with the company outside of section 6 these days (117 as an example) releasing the survey is a leg up for the company and hurts the dalpa negotiators and therefore us. You can disagree. But I think that may be the assumption being operated under by not releasing results. |
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1886634)
I'm glad you're on the front lines to protect the "unsuspecting and trusting". Thank you for your service to the pilot group. What would we do without your loaded opinions and conspiracy theories?
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1886634)
Your perception of your fellow pilots is sad (for you). Thankfully it's not reality!
Carl |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1886747)
Harwood is the last person that should be near the negotiating table. He's great with numbers, but his pride and emotional attachment to his product could be disastrous.
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1886723)
Donatelli promised "historic."
Anything less in this environment is proof that constructive engagement is a one-way street and does not help the Delta line pilot. I just cannot understand why the organization we finance to secure our bread and butter is so damn bent on solving the company's problems before solving our problems. I just don't get it. Carl |
Originally Posted by Raging white
(Post 1886721)
Yes, that's why I asked. My experience has been that he has data to back up his claims, but clearly, someone is wrong on this one
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Originally Posted by gzsg
(Post 1886748)
The MSP first officer rep is Eric Hall. He has done an outstanding job. Standing tall and honoring the survey.
Working side by side with the MSP captain rep. Carl |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1886784)
Have we EVER voted down a T/A?
By the time it gets to a MEC approved T/A, it's over. That's why you should be calling your reps NOW to tell them these concessions are UNACEPTABLE! BEFORFE they vote Yes to a T/A. Just like the CDO's nobody asked for! :rolleyes: That was the situation with the 117 LOA. An agreement had been reached, and official details were released to the line pilots prior to TA ratification. That is NOT what is happening here. You've got PD and Jerry acting a fool and just throwing crap up against the wall. In another week or 2, maybe there will be something more concrete. Right now nothing is in concrete and is particularly in flux as the final compensation package figures haven't even been exchanged. I do agree that it is critical that appropriate details be released to the pilot group (just like in the 117 LOA) prior to the debate and vote to accept the TA to send it to memory rat. Once it goes to memory rat, it historically is not turned down. |
Originally Posted by gzsg
(Post 1886748)
The MSP first officer rep is Eric Hall. He has done an outstanding job. Standing tall and honoring the survey.
Working side by side with the MSP captain rep. I have recently heard he has realigned himself recently after some recall talk. I will be at the meeting on the first and ask him what he supports |
Originally Posted by Professor
(Post 1886801)
Carl. Your direct honest, non condescending tone is always great to read.
I would just offer that since we are in constant negotiations with the company outside of section 6 these days (117 as an example) releasing the survey is a leg up for the company and hurts the dalpa negotiators and therefore us. You can disagree. But I think that may be the assumption being operated under by not releasing results. Carl |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1886785)
Lots of people. Before he took this latest job, he was flying for Delta while working as a paid consultant for the United pilots during their seniority list integration with Continental. Now there's a lawsuit alleging a number of things. One of the allegations is that he dropped all his Delta trips and was paid full flight pay loss, while working as a paid consultant for the United pilots.
Many of us here remember when he got fired from his MEC administration position for his actions during C2012, he was here bragging that it was fine because he was making much more money flying the line and working his side business. When we found out what his side business was, he stopped posting here. When the consultation gig ended with United pilots, he won election back to the MEC administration. He is supposed to be on our side. The truth is that he's on his side. One thing you have to note is his dogged determination to acquire power. No matter how many times he's fired or blocked, he finds another way to get back in. Carl |
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