Private message him on APC to quit? Does he still read this board? Haven't seen him post in a while.

The Council 1 update jives with what I've been told- the old guard (CVG mafia, pinho, white, hardwoood...) wants to continue with their old hardheaded method of doing things, but they are no longer in the majority among the MEC, hence the gnashing of teeth the other day.

What position does he hold this time?

*** are they doing in the room? Get them out NOW! They are working against our interest. We pay dues to be represented. Why the survey?

In this environment, they (we) should accept nothing less than the survey results. Not for some clowns to sell us out for political gain or to gain favor with management. If they ef' this one up, I hope dALPA is history.

Strategic Planning ℅-chair.

But he has weaseled into some murky role in negotiations.

I think he was appointed by the MEC Chairman, the same guy who removed one of our best negotiators.

Actually that negotiator 'resigned' when a new NC Chairman was appointed... by the MEC Chairman. Politics at it's worst.

I have emailed my ATL reps, but based on the response from the Capt. Rep, I am not hopeful. He is hung up on speed vs. quality, TVM and all that.

Uh, after nearly 30 years here you know the NC chair is elected by the MEC, right? The NC member resigned of his own volition and was not removed (the MEC chair or NC chair can't do that, only the MEC can). You'll have to ask him why. I agree he did very good work on C2012.

So with the facts, where's "politics at it's worst"? Again, shoot outside the circle, please.

My sources tell me it's the SEC guys mucking things up. They have a history of not following rules (Criminoles and War Schooners), and have a propensity of taking care of themselves before they take care of the group.:D

BTW, who is the "CVG mafia"? Near as I can remember there's the three CVG LEC guys (where the two votes are generally split) and two CVG based committee chairs on the MEC. Also, Pinho and White haven't been around the MEC for a long time. You might need some new sources.;)

Look who showed up! Right on cue. ;)

You're a Criminole.

But wait. That's not the sec. This is name calling at its worst.