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Professor 05-28-2015 09:42 AM

Delta C2015
 
Is there a TA?

Have PD and GZSG talked to their reps?

Do I look fat in these jeans?

cornbeef007 05-28-2015 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1889870)
Where do you work again?

What does it even matter? Don't deflect the statement.

forgot to bid 05-28-2015 09:47 AM

Here's a question dovetailing on someone's post a few weeks ago. Would you bring the EMB-195 to mainline if, and only if, you allow the 325 jumbo RJ limit to increase and more 50 seaters to be parked?

Say 375 jumbo RJs for mainline E-195s?

BenderRodriguez 05-28-2015 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy (Post 1890401)
As "tone free" as I can make it. DAL MEC Website. Library. Page 2. Scope Compliance Analysis May 2015. The Numbers. Plain English. Provided by DALPA. I read the provided analysis. DALPA waited till the end of the cure period and filed. I'm often on your side or at least understand it, but in this instance..? I responded to a post with 2 primary observations. 1) I think it would cost a lot of money to unwind the large RJ operations. Either to buy them out of the various contracts or to in house them. I think I'm right. 2) I'm concerned about our Intl JV operations. Esp that we have to grieve an issue after a 3 year "cure." I would change my handle to Notone, but I'm so Fly. What to do? OFG

My apologies for misinterpreting your post.

Contrary to what seems popular opinion, I have no stance on many of the lightning rod issues. I am just catching so much flak because I am not toeing the radical emotional line, and I get that, but I am not going to throw down and get all dramatic and say "if XXX then I am voting no". Wouldn't be prudent.

Back to the gnash cluster.

BenderRodriguez 05-28-2015 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1890527)
Is there a TA?

Have PD and GZSG talked to their reps?

Do I look fat in these jeans?

Leave off the guac next time. And don't hold your breath for an answer. Jerry is too busy creating rumors and PD is doing whatever it is he does.

Professor 05-28-2015 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1890538)
Leave off the guac next time. And don't hold your breath for an answer. Jerry is too busy creating rumors and PD is doing whatever it is he does.


Eating the souls of new hires?

sailingfun 05-28-2015 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy (Post 1889705)
Forcing 76 seaters to sunset...? when they are just getting them? Definitely wouldn't be cheap. How would that even happen unless DAL bought the 76 seat operators? No need to even discuss 50 seat as I'm pretty sure they are self destructing. Mgmt may want more 76 seat flexibility to help the RJ operators as the 50s go away, but that is too bad. Not my problem. Is the AS agreement out of compliance? I'm not an expert. I may not like it but how is it "abuse?" SEA is now a hub for us. Its also AS largest hub and corporate headquarters. Its certainly seems convoluted trying to limit each others operations in any agreement. AF/KLM I agree it needs fixing. But I also doubt the non compliance has cost us the bazillion jobs some think. Nevertheless, I expect a penalty and better future enforcement. I absolutely disagree with any notion we can function in this world solo. But I don't like that our JV partners always seem to need lots of big metal. And IMO DAL seems content to resell tickets. Eventually if we don't have the metal aren't we marginalized or expendable to the JV? Which puts us... solo. Hmm. UAL and AAL have better Intl venture partners than DAL IMO and it seems to be working to the "metal" benefit of all. I'm concerned about that. A lot. OFG

The final score so to speak was Delta came in at 46.9 or 47.0 of the EASK between us and AF/KLM/Alitalia. The requirement was 48.5. That works out on a departure basis to about 55% of the flights.
DALPA has stated consistently contrary to Carl's post that they would file a grievance as soon as they legally could. The filed that grievance almost to the day it was allowed. At a ATL pub meeting the chairman stated it would not be rolled into the contract. Time will tell if that proves to be correct.

redship 05-28-2015 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1890531)
Here's a question dovetailing on someone's post a few weeks ago. Would you bring the EMB-195 to mainline if, and only if, you allow the 325 jumbo RJ limit to increase and more 50 seaters to be parked?

Say 375 jumbo RJs for mainline E-195s?

Nope. If Delta wants any more jets of any size they can go ahead and buy them and train is to fly them.

TheManager 05-28-2015 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by redship (Post 1890627)
Nope. If Delta wants any more jets of any size they can go ahead and buy them and train is to fly them.

Exactly. Thanks for pointing this out.

If they need them, they will get them. We don't need to relax more scope to facilitate that.

Plain and simple.

boog123 05-28-2015 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1890531)
Here's a question dovetailing on someone's post a few weeks ago. Would you bring the EMB-195 to mainline if, and only if, you allow the 325 jumbo RJ limit to increase and more 50 seaters to be parked?

Say 375 jumbo RJs for mainline E-195s?


Trial Balloon Launch……

Why are the related? Our contract says if the E195 is flown at our airline, then it will be flown by mainline pilots.

Why the need to add more "jumbo Rj's"?


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