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06-07-2015 | 06:38 PM
#6091
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But your pay rates didn't yield during bankruptcy, right? If we transfer PS into pay, it can never be taken away...amirightoramiright?
06-07-2015 | 06:39 PM
#6092
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Tumbleweed, with all due respect, Tool is engaging you in a conversation about what you will/wont give up. Would you mind listing some gains you expect in this contract? Hours are spent talking about what could be lost (which is the goal of Ford/Harrison) with little to no time talking about what we should be gaining. Let's have that conversation please.
06-07-2015 | 06:40 PM
#6094
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I'll actually go ahead and guarantee profit for the next three years, by the way. I don't need this contract to be the last contract we'll ever have since it obviously won't be.
06-07-2015 | 06:40 PM
#6095
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Many on this board have set themselves up by having ridiculous and unrealistic expectations. Even if it is a good TA, it couldn't possibly be enough to satisfy many here. For example, someone just floated the rumor of pay raises that amounts to AMR + 2%, and we retain most of the PS. While one can debate the merit of that and the rest, it amounts to 21.5% compounded over 3 years. Know anyone in your neighborhood getting that deal? I certainly wouldn't be crying about it too loud.
That also would represent the top contract in the industry. Not good enough though. Really, nothing rational will meet the APC standard.
That also would represent the top contract in the industry. Not good enough though. Really, nothing rational will meet the APC standard.
I'm AA and am embarrassed for you.
Yes, I will call you Caitlyn from now on. You earned it.
06-07-2015 | 06:41 PM
#6096
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06-07-2015 | 06:43 PM
#6098
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I want a better contract.
How does your/living the dream's strategy get us a better contract? You want everything off the table from the get go. Nothing can be traded or bargained away for improvements. The only leverage remaining is "labor peace". I don't see this as a valid strategy for our pilot group.
How does your/living the dream's strategy get us a better contract? You want everything off the table from the get go. Nothing can be traded or bargained away for improvements. The only leverage remaining is "labor peace". I don't see this as a valid strategy for our pilot group.
06-07-2015 | 06:44 PM
#6099
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Looking at the history of this business, how is it that we believe that we will never see losses or breakeven again? The business cycle is very reliable, between 7-10 years. Then we have big events like the dot.com crash, 9/11, and the global crash of 2008.
06-07-2015 | 06:45 PM
#6100
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Tumbleweed, with all due respect, Tool is engaging you in a conversation about what you will/wont give up. Would you mind listing some gains you expect in this contract? Hours are spent talking about what could be lost (which is the goal of Ford/Harrison) with little to no time talking about what we should be gaining. Let's have that conversation please.
They are in my contract survey.
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