ilinipilot

I sent out a similar letter. Please guys and girls let them hear it. It was not us who said it had to be historic it was md and the mec. Our reps said they will not stand for a contract similar to 2012. I reminded them of that fact. We all should too.

Army80

Were the previous 16 Contrails signed?

I think this is part of the como package that DALPA set up as part of the contract negotiations so all the whiners couldn't say that they were never included in any of the "process".

No info = they are secretive

info = they are secretive

No black helicopters in this one.

sailingfun

If the TA returns the highest increased value ever achieved in a Delta pilot contract would you consider that historic?
Note: I know basically nothing more about the TA then is posted here. Just curious how you define historic.

Army80

News flash.

You are going to be disappointed.

You want a contract that is all take and no give. Has that ever happened in any union contract in any industry?

I'm ok with some giving if the take is worth it. It's all in the details.

We will know soon enough.

Carl Spackler

Ha! That'll be worth it just to see that!

Carl

Carl Spackler

Absolutely right. Problem is that our negotiators gave away part of profit sharing very early on...absolutely 100% guaranteed. They've been trying their best to denigrate it in our eyes ever since with their renaming it as "at risk compensation." They're doing it to reduce the blowback they know they're going to get. It'll be very interesting to see if a majority of the members fight back.

Carl

Check Essential

No helicopters perhaps, but it is a bit condescending, don't you think?

"The reps are deeply invested in this process...
You, on the other hand..."

Its kinda funny actually. The inartful phrasing.
We know he didn't mean it the way it sounds. (I hope)

Our Comm Chair writes pretty well. But this patience missive and his quick reaction piece following the Council 1 Update were a bit... let's say .. overdone.
He could benefit from an editor.

TripleF

The company wants to lower PS for pilots so more money diverts to the thousands of other employees; particularly the ready reserves. Why do you think there was an early PS payout last year? The 1300 hour limit for RR was enacted 10/1/13-9/30/14 and many of them reached the limit and didn't have income coming in. Also, the 3% raise for ready reserves amounts to $.36 an hour. Imagine the anger from RR employees if their PS checks are smaller!

300SMK

AA and CAL used to own all flying over 50-seats.
UAL owned all flying over 70 seats and they were not unlimited as per the DALPA sales job of C12, they were tied to block hours and referred to as jumbo RJs.
DL was the first to break the 90-seater loose on the scale it is today. And we are going to do it AGAIN for C15.

Everyone needs to read Section 1. SEA is NOT a hub and never will be if that section doesn't get changed. LAX is exempted from hub to hub flying wrt the Alaska marketing agreement.

If you are SEA, LAX, SLC or MSP section 1 should be a no-go for you. I realized gains from the movement in SEA and LAX all the way on the other coast. I went from barely a NB line holder to solid intl line holder bc of that growth. So yes, EVERYONE should care about scope.

And when has the company not pushed the limits or blatantly violated the contract? Trust should be out the door.


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DeadHead

So what did the company "give" when they were able to pass a two-punch round of concessions during bankruptcy?

It's obvious what the "take" was, but no one has been able to define what the "give" was.