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06-09-2015 | 07:08 AM
#6491
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From: DAL FO
Fair enough. I'm just passing along what I'm witnessing at the meeting for those that couldn't make it. Since you have better information than John Morgado, please share.
06-09-2015 | 07:08 AM
#6492
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I'm thinking those in their last three years will vote yes for the instant raise and anyone in the bottom 20% will vote yes for the new airplanes. If that were to hold true, the swing votes are middle seniority pilots who don't care about RJ's at mainline and are not under any time pressure when it comes to rates. This group of pilots is also the group that will be affected most by the change to OE trips.
Anyone agree?
Anyone agree?
06-09-2015 | 07:08 AM
#6493
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From: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift
The conversion from EASK to Block hours amounts to a 20% plus reduction for Delta pilots from previous block-hour levels.
The new compliance period is an improvement.
Cheers
George
06-09-2015 | 07:09 AM
#6494
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
How should I feel? I have made no comments about the TA other then ask for specifics on rumors posted. My first look is that we will gain jobs on the work rule side. I don't like the payrates but if you end up with the NMB they are at the top of the industry.
Many of the rumors posted here did not come to pass. No pay banding, no third party sick verification, no reduction in sick hours, no increase in training freeze except in base moves by a new hire.
There are a bunch of quality of life improvements and many areas of past complaints have been addressed. In total those items have significant value.
There are negatives. The obvious is the potential 5.7% reduction in profit sharing if PTEX is above 6 billion. This year will however be only the second time in history that has happened. The sick verification requirement change I don't like. I can live with the RJ changes given its a net reduction and the 2 for 1 gain at the mainline. I don't fully understand the switch to block hours from EASK but the new compliance periods are a big improvement.
Overall I don't like the payrates but can live with the rest. I had to vote today I would vote no because of the payrates. I will attend the road shows and read what I can. I need to see the costed values in all the work rule changes. We will all get one vote. I suspect this will be a very close vote.
Many of the rumors posted here did not come to pass. No pay banding, no third party sick verification, no reduction in sick hours, no increase in training freeze except in base moves by a new hire.
There are a bunch of quality of life improvements and many areas of past complaints have been addressed. In total those items have significant value.
There are negatives. The obvious is the potential 5.7% reduction in profit sharing if PTEX is above 6 billion. This year will however be only the second time in history that has happened. The sick verification requirement change I don't like. I can live with the RJ changes given its a net reduction and the 2 for 1 gain at the mainline. I don't fully understand the switch to block hours from EASK but the new compliance periods are a big improvement.
Overall I don't like the payrates but can live with the rest. I had to vote today I would vote no because of the payrates. I will attend the road shows and read what I can. I need to see the costed values in all the work rule changes. We will all get one vote. I suspect this will be a very close vote.
06-09-2015 | 07:09 AM
#6495
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From: Light Chop
That's just a guess.
06-09-2015 | 07:09 AM
#6496
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It's worse than C2012.
8,0,3,3 add inflation 6,0,1,1.
At least we reduced our medical premiums and Deductables to non bankruptcy levels.
Not.
C2015 is not even a single, it's a bunt.
06-09-2015 | 07:11 AM
#6499
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From: F-16 & 737 gear actuator
How does this help anyone already on property? I'm in the bottom 3% and I don't see how this should affect my vote. If anything, won't this bring more pilots on property, which seems (to me) to be a good thing?
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