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Old 06-04-2015, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager View Post
Don't think that's a given this time.


Why you might ask? Look how big the profit sharing checks have become since 2011.

That is the biggest hurdle for the upcoming sales campaign.


Delta is wildly profitable now and forecasted to increase that position as debt retires at a record clip. That along with the $6 billion dollar dividend and share buy back program and it become hard to sell a concessionary TA.

Did the company over reach without supplying a double digit increase?

That is going to be the big question. Folks are going to weigh the concessions against pay increases, particularly if PS is touched.
This is not going to be a 65-35 rubber stamp snap-a
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Me personally, it's a NO vote until i can be convinced of YES. For C12k I was a YES unless I could be convinced NO.
I don't think profit sharing will be touched. It will be other concessions like sick leave, lca bidding, scope, and more productivity changes that benefit the company. I also think the pay rate will come in higher than the rumored 9/4/4/4...I am a typical 40% voter and will be again if it has 1 concession in it, but if they bump the pay rates up most guys will vote yes. Even with other concessions.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager View Post
Oh you want this to pass so bad, don't you?

You're last contract likely, right

Have you met Bender-oopps-I-mean-TSquare yet? You two would get along great.

I'm 42 my friend. Many many many to go.

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Old 06-04-2015, 10:44 AM
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Are you currently, or have you ever been an elected official for Dalpa?



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I'm 42 my friend. Many many many to go.

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Old 06-04-2015, 10:44 AM
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Are you currently, or have you ever been an elected official for Dalpa?

Nope. And nope. I have no interest in elected office. I'm a volunteer. Those who know me would call me 'lazy'.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:53 AM
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This should be interesting. Déjà vu all over again. But now Delta's PTIX will be 4 X higher than 2012.

"Heightened expectations" tend to be much more skeptical.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:54 AM
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rumor has it: 2 people were making their way to the microphone to ask questions
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:10 AM
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Folks, please, during the up and coming TA debates, never forget:

-The record profits being made
-The 5 Billion in stock buybacks and additional 1 Billion in dividends the company just recently announced. They found 6 Billion lying around to do those with.
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:12 AM
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What's the industrial conference
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:18 AM
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The only way they get this to pass with some concessions involved and 9/4/4/4 is if they have some sort of "Fleeting Opportunity" that they have kept secret.

Since we haven't heard any rumors, I find that unlikely.

However, maybe they will tie the deal to more widebodies, 100-seat fleet at mainline, or some crazy idea like merging with Endeavor starting immediately, bringing all of DCI in-house, and not renewing any contracts going forward with other DCI carriers.
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:20 AM
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What's the industrial conference
Delta and other airlines presented at the Deutsche Bank Global Industrials and Basic Materials Conference today. Kinda like an investor call but different I guess. I didn't listen, I was flying.
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