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06-09-2015 | 06:37 AM
#6451
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06-09-2015 | 06:37 AM
#6452
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From: Light Chop
check this out, their NYC7ERB fix
New hire training freeze increased to 24 months
o May be awarded an AE/VD after 12 months if initial qualification training required to change bases
o Remaining freeze added to new freeze from AE/VD award
New hire training freeze increased to 24 months
o May be awarded an AE/VD after 12 months if initial qualification training required to change bases
o Remaining freeze added to new freeze from AE/VD award
06-09-2015 | 06:37 AM
#6453
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From: DAL FO
Don't put this crap on the 'senior widebody captains', most of the negotiators are Copilots!
I can't speak for the Whale Capts. with frozen DB plans (many of them left with the early out packages) but I do know from talking with many 777 Capts. they are in NO HURRY to give away 50% of our profit sharing, or give up more Scope concessions, especially JV concessions like this T/A does with Virgin's flying.
But don't worry, you'll never see those two 3% raises... again.
Bump both of those up to 5%, remove all that Sick Leave Verification nonsense, add 3% to our DC funding, buy us an annuity to supplement our retirement, and then maybe we can take another look at it.
I can't speak for the Whale Capts. with frozen DB plans (many of them left with the early out packages) but I do know from talking with many 777 Capts. they are in NO HURRY to give away 50% of our profit sharing, or give up more Scope concessions, especially JV concessions like this T/A does with Virgin's flying.
But don't worry, you'll never see those two 3% raises... again.
Bump both of those up to 5%, remove all that Sick Leave Verification nonsense, add 3% to our DC funding, buy us an annuity to supplement our retirement, and then maybe we can take another look at it.
That said it is counterproductive to point at any part of the pilot group (WB captains, new hires, whatever...) as likely to sell anyone else out.
06-09-2015 | 06:37 AM
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I was skeptical when I first heard this piece too. It's the last 80 that they are looking at. The majority of guys never get into their last 80, I would guess.
For a guy with 240/year, you could use 160 hours and still put 40 into your bank. I've only exceeded 160 in a year when I broke my foot s few years ago.
Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but it's not like we have to preserve the first 80 to bank the 40...
For a guy with 240/year, you could use 160 hours and still put 40 into your bank. I've only exceeded 160 in a year when I broke my foot s few years ago.
Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but it's not like we have to preserve the first 80 to bank the 40...
06-09-2015 | 06:42 AM
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From: Light Chop
Trans-Atlantic Joint Venture scope modified to a 50 percent block hour capacity baseline.
o No longer using EASK metric, this includes a carve-out for flights between U.S. and U.K. due to the Virgin Atlantic Joint Venture.
o One-percent buffer, with a one-year measurement period and one year cure period
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So if we JV with someone with A380s/773/747s then one of those now equal 1 767-300? George, enlighten me.
o No longer using EASK metric, this includes a carve-out for flights between U.S. and U.K. due to the Virgin Atlantic Joint Venture.
o One-percent buffer, with a one-year measurement period and one year cure period
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So if we JV with someone with A380s/773/747s then one of those now equal 1 767-300? George, enlighten me.
06-09-2015 | 06:44 AM
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Now give up 10% (from 20% -10%) on 3.5 billion that is 350 million! Our share roughly a third, that is approximately 120 million per year lost in pilots share of PS. All this did was exchange money from one pot to another. There is no real raise in this TA and a ton of gives. NO THANKS
06-09-2015 | 06:44 AM
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LCA trips not being in bid package, for FOs, is very bad horrible thing.
So the trips that could give me a line, with Christmas off, are not available. Now my else start next pushes me to reserve to get Christmas off.
NICE job Negotiators. Save the company money and mess with my holidays.
YOU HAVE MADE HISTORY.
So the trips that could give me a line, with Christmas off, are not available. Now my else start next pushes me to reserve to get Christmas off.
NICE job Negotiators. Save the company money and mess with my holidays.
YOU HAVE MADE HISTORY.
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