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Old 06-09-2015, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond View Post
So are you saying that nobody at mainline would be interested in that flying?
No. He's saying we don't buy airplanes we fly airplanes the company buys. If they need a plane they buy it. We don't have input and it is a false premise to think or suppose that this TA gives us that input.
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Old 06-09-2015, 07:53 PM
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You will have some that will fly it just to say that they are a Capt. I can have a much better life style flying a larger jet. And yes I will not fly the 717, 88, 737 or the E190. I hate having to jump on those.
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Old 06-09-2015, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Airbusdude14 View Post
You will have some that will fly it just to say that they are a Capt. I can have a much better life style flying a larger jet. And yes I will not fly the 717, 88, 737 or the E190. I hate having to jump on those.
And yours is one opinion out of 12000.
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Old 06-09-2015, 07:58 PM
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That's the nice thing we control the plane we bid to fly. We control the lifestyle we want and we as a group control the Contract we Vote IN or OUT. Me personally don't want to fly in a small uncomfortable cockpit.
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Airbusdude14 View Post
That's the nice thing we control the plane we bid to fly. We control the lifestyle we want and we as a group control the Contract we Vote IN or OUT. Me personally don't want to fly in a small uncomfortable cockpit. Me personally don't want to fly in a small uncomfortable cockpit
....of course that was part of what created this scope problem in the past. Tell me Airbusdude, what you flew before going to work for Delta?
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Airbusdude14 View Post
That's the nice thing we control the plane we bid to fly. We control the lifestyle we want and we as a group control the Contract we Vote IN or OUT. Me personally don't want to fly in a small uncomfortable cockpit. Me personally don't want to fly in a small uncomfortable cockpit
Me either. But there are many that have no desire to fly an airbus or international.
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:03 PM
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Careful, I sold four hours of sim time for a case of beer to a long time F/O who was throwing craps at upgrade time.
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bounty Man View Post
Very true.
Have you asked yourself, has anybody really asked why is management trying to shove a TA through 6 months early?
I have my theory's but this is for a reason and unprecedented.
Yes sir or mam, we've been asking that since 2012, same modus operandi back then. I surmise that huge profits are ahead.
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant View Post
The yes votes will come from senior older pilots trying to coast out....and junior pilots chomping at the bit to make captain on the E195...It will be an interesting horse race. If it passes, watch for most domestic flying to go to the E195 class B scale while ALPA claims victory....Deja vu again....
Several area code seniority pilots are voicing "hell no" on this forum. I'm one.
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Scope improvements- further locking in more mainline flying (despite allowing up to 25 more 76 seaters)
This is not a scope improvement, this is doubling down on C2012: fixing management's DCI staffing problem for them, breathing new life into a repugnant outsourcing scheme, and acting like buying flying we already own is some sort of scope victory.

Name one single contract since 1996 when DALPA hasn't given given management more of the biggest, most advanced, most mainliney RJs available at the time. You can't. They are habitually unable and unwilling to draw and defend a line on narrowbody scope (and now it turns out, widebody scope too). This is yet another capitulation and the best thing that can be said about it is that it's not as big as the last one.
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