Details on Delta TA
06-09-2015, 08:08 PM
#6961
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 45
Originally Posted by Airbusdude14
You will have some that will fly it just to say that they are a Capt. I can have a much better life style flying a larger jet. And yes I will not fly the 717, 88, 737 or the E190. I hate having to jump on those.
06-09-2015, 08:09 PM
#6964
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,943
Originally Posted by Airbusdude14
That's the nice thing we control the plane we bid to fly. We control the lifestyle we want and we as a group control the Contract we Vote IN or OUT. Me personally don't want to fly in a small uncomfortable cockpit.
06-09-2015, 08:12 PM
#6965
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 45
Originally Posted by contrails
That's fine, and I'm sure you are glad that some senior to you will free up some spots to enable you to move up on the 330, if those people get tired of staying up alllll night and then waking up at midnight on go-home day. Maybe they live in base and would prefer easy 2-days and daytrips. It all circulates and you'd benefit a bit from moving up as some choose to upgrade.
06-09-2015, 08:17 PM
#6967
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: B737 CA
Posts: 1,518
Originally Posted by Airbusdude14
Who would want to squeeze into a E jet. No thanks I'll stay on my rt side 330, rate should be at least the same as the 717 though.
That said, I'm still not willing to let management outsource one more mainline-replacement RJ to get 195s.
06-09-2015, 08:19 PM
#6968
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,165
Originally Posted by JungleBus
This is not a scope improvement, this is doubling down on C2012: fixing management's DCI staffing problem for them, breathing new life into a repugnant outsourcing scheme, and acting like buying flying we already own is some sort of scope victory.
Name one single contract since 1996 when DALPA hasn't given given management more of the biggest, most advanced, most mainliney RJs available at the time. You can't. They are habitually unable and unwilling to draw and defend a line on narrowbody scope (and now it turns out, widebody scope too). This is yet another capitulation and the best thing that can be said about it is that it's not as big as the last one.
Name one single contract since 1996 when DALPA hasn't given given management more of the biggest, most advanced, most mainliney RJs available at the time. You can't. They are habitually unable and unwilling to draw and defend a line on narrowbody scope (and now it turns out, widebody scope too). This is yet another capitulation and the best thing that can be said about it is that it's not as big as the last one.
1. The total number of RJ's is reduced from 450 to 425.
2. The mainline to DCI block hour ratio is increased from a maximum min (if that even makes sense
) of 1.56 to 1.81. Prior to the JPWA the ratio was somewhere around 0.9.I'm not saying it's right, and I would rather not see 25 more 76 seaters, but these are 2 improvements over the current PWA. Do they offset having more 76 seaters? We only have to decide if the MEC sends it to memrat tomorrow afternoon. We will see soon enough.
As for the carrot and stick routine with the 190's, I am in complete agreement. We should not consider that in our decision on this deal at all. They can buy them or not, and our blessing is not required either way. The only thing the TA does wrt the 190's IMO is get the rates for them up to where they ought to be. If they come under the current rates my prediction is you will see street captains (or nearly so) because nobody currently on the property would bid it.
06-09-2015, 08:21 PM
#6969
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Posts: 4,202
From the other forum ref: sick concessions. Is this accurate?
If true, it's fewer than 15 days unverified per rolling year after year 1.
After 15 work days, need a note from Dr. May get call for good faith issues same as before
26 work days in rolling 1 year window, you sign medical release which allows Delta HIPPA Dr to contact your Dr and get your records.
56 work days in rolling 3 year window, same
26 work days in rolling 1 year window, you sign medical release which allows Delta HIPPA Dr to contact your Dr and get your records.
56 work days in rolling 3 year window, same
06-09-2015, 08:22 PM
#6970
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Originally Posted by JungleBus
This is not a scope improvement, this is doubling down on C2012: fixing management's DCI staffing problem for them, breathing new life into a repugnant outsourcing scheme, and acting like buying flying we already own is some sort of scope victory.
Name one single contract since 1996 when DALPA hasn't given given management more of the biggest, most advanced, most mainliney RJs available at the time. You can't. They are habitually unable and unwilling to draw and defend a line on narrowbody scope (and now it turns out, widebody scope too). This is yet another capitulation and the best thing that can be said about it is that it's not as big as the last one.
Name one single contract since 1996 when DALPA hasn't given given management more of the biggest, most advanced, most mainliney RJs available at the time. You can't. They are habitually unable and unwilling to draw and defend a line on narrowbody scope (and now it turns out, widebody scope too). This is yet another capitulation and the best thing that can be said about it is that it's not as big as the last one.
I don't disagree. The block hour ratios get to where I thought they should be in C2012, plus the closing of the republic loophole and other areas were good. I was trying to be fair and give credit where it was due as far as a more positive aspect.
Remember that they haven't even exercised all the options on the 76 seaters that they can currently do in this case. With all the mud in this mediocre at best contract, I considered that one of the lower threat items as far as gives. That's all that I was saying.
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