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Old 06-07-2015 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MOTOJOE
So if we were in a normal Four or five yr contract it would of looked like this 12.5/4/4/4/4, but if the negative waves man pilots on this forum (say it like in Kelly's heroes) are close in there pay predictions then our pay looks like this 12.5/4/4/15/4/4. More than a 33% increase in pay in six yrs. Not to shabby IMO. But like others have said it all depends on the rest of the contract.
You're going to have to show your math on that, and don't forget to deduct the profit sharing giveback.
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Old 06-07-2015 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
Apparently our reps do need reminding, since there is a strong possibility that we're about to see an epic fail, vice an "historic" contract.



Good Day.
If you think telling a rep that "you pay dues" somehow gets his attention, you are wasting your breath.

IMO, the TA will disappoint you. Like you, I want more. My path to more is different than yours.
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Old 06-07-2015 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
"Well you know Danny, the world needs ditch diggers too."

Movie?

Carl
Too easy Carl
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Old 06-07-2015 | 01:44 PM
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You have to admire our management's courage. To announce a $5 billion buy back during historic negotiations with the only union on the property takes an enormous amount of confidence. Confidence that they can control any process or outcome. The confidence to dominate us under what would appear to be the best of times for labor to recoup our losses. If our MEC can't bear the responsibility we've given them, it's time for a change.
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Old 06-07-2015 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleF
Not a pilot, but work for Delta.

It's not a quote from a movie. It is just a realization that life won't always be what you expect it to be and we well be both throughout our lives.
Well, first off its Caddyshack. Praised be thy celluloid.

Second off, with regards to your other posts. I don't care. At all, not one bit about how other employee groups view our contract or our profit sharing.

We are unionized and as such are constantly negotiating against 'ghost' labor in the company. Frankly I resent it, because the 'me too' syndrome we have to fight the company on at the negotiating table is tiresome.

Because we are an organized labor group we have a process and a system in place to deal with new contracts that is totally separate and apart from all other proceedings at the airline. This isn't an opinion its a fact of federal law. The DALPA by-laws, RLA and NMB run our negotiating show.

What Delta management decides to do or not do with other contracts is totally and completely their call. It has nothing to do with Delta pilot representation nor the Delta pilots themselves.

To suggest that the company will have to 'reduce salaries' if X, Y or Z happens inside of the Delta pilots' contract is emotional blackmail. If not straight out blackmail of other labor groups.

It isn't appreciated.
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Old 06-07-2015 | 01:50 PM
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Why do some of these guys make me nervous, and I don't even have a dog anymore....
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Old 06-07-2015 | 02:16 PM
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Run along now and discuss things on a forum/discussion board of your peers. It's none of your business what we make as it's none of my business what you make. I would never go on a FA , below or above wing discussion and give my opinion. Your opinion here is not welcome.


Originally Posted by TripleF
The company wants to lower PS for pilots so more money diverts to the thousands of other employees; particularly the ready reserves. Why do you think there was an early PS payout last year? The 1300 hour limit for RR was enacted 10/1/13-9/30/14 and many of them reached the limit and didn't have income coming in. Also, the 3% raise for ready reserves amounts to $.36 an hour. Imagine the anger from RR employees if their PS checks are smaller!
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Old 06-07-2015 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
"Well you know Danny, the world needs ditch diggers too."

Movie?

Carl
You're asking this crowd? Come on.
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Old 06-07-2015 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
You're asking this crowd? Come on.
Sorry Al.

Carl
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Old 06-07-2015 | 02:29 PM
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It won't be long before Carl starts posting airplane pictures for I.D. The stress is telling....
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