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hockeypilot44 06-09-2015 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1898927)
Ok, DALMD88FO I will bite what changed in the last to weeks that has the MEC running scared. Because based on their actions that is exactly what seems to be happening. My rep won't say anything.

RA said this offer is going to be his best. Main rule of negotiation is to put pressure on the other side. Our union is not following basic rules of negotiation. Be patient and put pressure on the other side. We are putting no pressure on the company and we are not being patient. We are getting owned in the best environment in history. This will be the largest raise we ever get going forward. If 8 percent is correct, then our buying power has peaked again. We only lead the industry in a few areas. Profit sharing, sick leave, OE recovery obligations, etc. Southwest, American, and United still make a higher hourly rate than us. You read that right. A Southwest pilot was making an hourly rate higher than our current rate 3 years ago. It is obvious that our company wants us to have an industry standard contract. They want concessions in every industry leading section.

gzsg 06-09-2015 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1898927)
Ok, DALMD88FO I will bite what changed in the last to weeks that has the MEC running scared. Because based on their actions that is exactly what seems to be happening. My rep won't say anything.

And the FAs have a 4:45 min day.

IMO this deal was crafted by the same guys as C2012. The whole thing was done before it started.

IMO they had the votes they needed to pass the MEC before they started. The reps they had in the bag have been caught flat footed. IMO they had no idea it would be this pathetic. The important details sprung on them at the last second.

Now what do they do? They do as they are told and they hate it. Played for fools.

We cannot let this pass. As Scoop said, if we miss this opportuntiy, we do our profession to mediocrity for decades to come.

Typhoonpilot 06-09-2015 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1898981)
The domestic US city pairs that the ME3 want to fly don't already have service?


Quick, check under the bed, the boogie man might be there waiting to grab you in the night.



TP

gzsg 06-09-2015 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1899026)
RA said this offer is going to be his best. Main rule of negotiation is to put pressure on the other side. Our union is not following basic rules of negotiation. Be patient and put pressure on the other side. We are putting no pressure on the company and we are not being patient. We are getting owned in the best environment in history. This will be the largest raise we ever get going forward. If 8 percent is correct, then our buying power has peaked again. We only lead the industry in a few areas. Profit sharing, sick leave, OE recovery obligations, etc. Southwest, American, and United still make a higher hourly rate than us. You read that right. A Southwest pilot was making an hourly rate higher than our current rate 3 years ago. It is obvious that our company wants us to have an industry standard contract. They want concessions in every industry leading section.

If the vacation is 3:30 that is far below the industry and one of the biggest failures in this TA.

Don't get me wrong, there is a huge list of failures in this TA.

Al Czervik 06-09-2015 05:30 AM

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pilotstats 06-09-2015 05:32 AM

TA 737 CA

July 1: $236
2016: $250
2017: $257
2018: $265

Destinypotato 06-09-2015 05:33 AM

Jungle bus for Mec chairman

bohicagain 06-09-2015 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by pilotstats (Post 1899035)
TA 737 CA

July 1: $236
2016: $250
2017: $257
2018: $265


Looks like the rumors where right 8/6/3/3

Purple Drank 06-09-2015 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by pilotstats (Post 1899035)
TA 737 CA

July 1: $236
2016: $250
2017: $257
2018: $265

How about the concessions? Or are you trying to bury them?

Cubdrick 06-09-2015 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by bohicagain (Post 1899037)
Looks like the rumors where right 8/6/3/3

That's enough for my "NO!" Unbelievable, record profits and that's the best offer? "Next time."


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