Though, you have to put it in it's full context. It was raised from 75-80 to 75-81.

I agree with this however: ��

Who in there right mind wants to fly more? Get a life!

It's really the only way to make this better.

Don't put this crap on the 'senior widebody captains', most of the negotiators are Copilots!

I can't speak for the Whale Capts. with frozen DB plans (many of them left with the early out packages) but I do know from talking with many 777 Capts. they are in NO HURRY to give away 50% of our profit sharing, or give up more Scope concessions, especially JV concessions like this T/A does with Virgin's flying.

But don't worry, you'll never see those two 3% raises... again. :rolleyes:

Bump both of those up to 5%, remove all that Sick Leave Verification nonsense, add 3% to our DC funding, buy us an annuity to supplement our retirement, and then maybe we can take another look at it.

That's DALPA's way of saying you got a little raise but now you can fly a lot more to make up for our inadequate negotiations!

"These aren't the planes your counting"

Sounds like a Jedi mind trick. Don't use your Jedi mind tricks on me.

I was skeptical when I first heard this piece too. It's the last 80 that they are looking at. The majority of guys never get into their last 80, I would guess.

For a guy with 240/year, you could use 160 hours and still put 40 into your bank. I've only exceeded 160 in a year when I broke my foot s few years ago.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but it's not like we have to preserve the first 80 to bank the 40...

Paid for by a massive reduction in PS. Change from 20% above 2.5 billion to 10% up to 6 billion. That's a loss of 10%. That will end up being a LOT of money lost in PS. I am quoting the Donatelli. " We heard you load and clear regarding your desire to keep PS" apparently not load enough! Pure BS

Now as well, 75% of trips bid by LCA will not be available to bid by FO's. Apparently, my seniority to bid commutable trips will be affected by what the LCA bid. Hopefully, they all live in base and bid crappy trips on holidays. Alpa, making sure we don't listen to our pilots needs since the year 2000.

If the MEC can vote NO that it is only on the NC.

So just a quick calculator wag but seems like you could reduce the number of FOs required by 15%. Except, some categories are probably doing very little training right now. So what happens to all of those trips that are not assigned to training?