I'm sending in a DPA card as well, and I've never considered it before, because I had -hope- that maybe with MD in charge and some other LEC changes, we might finally see C2K type leadership.

But this MEC leadership and NC have turned into an embarrassment. Is three nothing they will say NO to?

And the "Strategic Planning Committee", you know, the one with NO PLAN A, and NO PLAN B, needs to go back to flying the line TODAY! These guys have been living on Committee Chairman Pay too long.

Totally agree and expect nothing less. That's their job. What I can't comprehend is the neg com, MD and the 11 feeling this way. And I'll never understand the motive of the admin types who sew FUD and how in the hell they keep getting back into OUR union.

Of course RA and EB like this. What is the agenda of RH, MH and some of the other unelected admin types.

There were no 'pay raises', that's how.

If you look back at C2012, where we cut profit sharing to self fund some of those raises, and see that these last two years we only got 3% raises (barely covering inflation) and then look at this T/A, where we get an 8% bump right away, but then cut our PS again so the 6% is actually zero% as it's simply converting PS to pay, then tack on the next two 3% raises, again, barely covering inflation, you can see that in the span of the past two and next 3 years (5 years total) we have actually only achieved one 8% raise, the other 4 years were all 3% Cost of Living adjustments... to Bankruptcy pay rates!

In 2018 we will finally achieve our 2004 pay rates, minus 14 years of INFLATION! To put that in perspective, the 777 paid $319/hr. Plus International Override, plus Nigh Pay = about $330/hr. in 2004. Inflation adjusted to 2015 (not 2018) it should be $410/hr.

Oh, and we had a very GOOD retirement plan in 2004, unlike today.

Now add in three more years of inflation to get to 2018.

Now look at the company's earnings. Where did all those Billions come from?? FROM US! They came from NOT funding our DB plan, they come from NOT restoring our 2004 pay rates! They came from reducing the staffing required with PBS and no cap and pilots flying 87-92 hours instead of 75, and from pilots selling back 100% of their vacations!

That's YOUR money Richard is using for Stock Buybacks and Dividends, to himself!

We are morons if we vote yes for this.

Please for the love of God vote no on this.

Love,

Your friends at the regionals.

Agree. I hold nothing against the company. They're doing their job.

But I don't much care for the MD and NC's work at all. This TA is a nonstarter.

Night pay and international override were not paid together at the same time; it was one or the other.

However, your big picture is correct! Add in the gutting of the D&S plan, the introduction of the 76 seat RJ, loss of the 6th week of vacation and loss of medical in retirement (a $250K concession per retired couple by itself).

When the above items are restored, I will agree we are no longer working under a bankruptcy style contract.

Why upset the entire pilot group when things are going so well? This TA is a horrible failure for the Delta pilots, but it's a nightmare for management.

My question to negotiators at the roadshow will be: Did you know about the $5B buyback before or after negotiations began, and it what ways did it change your opener or final result?

Okay, I'll make a deal.

Send me the hard questions on PM. I'll track them and put them on a blog forum I already created. I won't answer them, just catalog them because they'll get lost here or any other thread among the commentary.

If an answer is found in the TA or an answer is given from a qualified ALPA source, I'll post it as a published answer or a second hand answer (you got from email or roadshow). The answers will be ALPA only.

But I ain't creating answers. And no commentary. If you don't like the answer, ask another question.

Just questions for the Royal Court from the constitutional peasants.