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forgot to bid 06-11-2015 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1901488)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...025200151.html

Here's the first carrot.

Just so you know... don't let this influence your vote. I was made aware of the intentions to get more 739s months ago...

So it's not just 100-110 seat jets we buy now when we say yes to contracts, we are now buying 737s if we vote yes too?

dangrad 06-11-2015 04:03 AM

9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true

Delta Health Services is an existing COMPANY department which sends us a Crew Health Newsletter monthly.......not a third-party verification company.

THEBRICK 06-11-2015 04:05 AM

All replacement aircraft replacing higher paying positions. People need to wake up and these jets are coming regardless of a yes or no vote. Don't let this be you carrot.

Purple Drank 06-11-2015 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1901601)
They would not go back on their word would they?

Are you referring to Donatelli and several reps?

Say, what's your take on the DALPA admins blocking negative comments on the Facebook page?

Herkflyr 06-11-2015 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by THEBRICK (Post 1901628)
All replacement aircraft replacing higher paying positions. People need to wake up and these jets are coming regardless of a yes or no vote. Don't let this be you carrot.

I agree. If you read my (increasingly too-many) posts you will see I am hardly a radical.

But this nonsense of "if you vote yes we order new jets" has got to stop. Mgmt will buy the jets and configure them and fly them where they best see fit. Hey, they are very good at it too!

In fact our current mgmt is smart enough that there is no way they would construct an entire fleet strategy contingent on the votes of the pilot group--any more than they would construct our Sky Club, seat configuration, frequent flyer program, cargo operations, delta.com website design or any other element to our company's operations.

Purple Drank 06-11-2015 04:25 AM

We need to get to the roadshows and attempt to (respectfully yet firmly) pull back the curtain by asking tough questions.

gopher3 06-11-2015 04:33 AM

I can not believe that any FO rep could honestly vote YES to this POS. What a bunch of tools. Talk about weak. My rep voted NO but if I was in a Council that had a FO rep vote yes on this he would be toast. What a p**ssy. No wonder mgmt. owns us. Where do we find such brave men to lead us? Never mind.

slowplay 06-11-2015 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1901643)
We need to get to the roadshows and attempt to (respectfully yet firmly) pull back the curtain by asking tough questions.

It's cold here. Really cold. Really, really, really cold.

I agree with PD.:eek:

btw, you should also listen to the answers to those tough questions.

TED74 06-11-2015 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1901590)
This TA sucks, but this is one bizarre conspiracy theory. Put away the tinfoil hats and enjoy the rest of your day.

I might have said the same thing 24 hours ago. But this TA and the MEC voting (particularly FOs!) have introduced me to some sort of strange and shi##y alternate reality. Anything is possible when the union that represents me is really just the company I work for.

lemooron 06-11-2015 04:41 AM

I'm mostly a lurker here and rarely post. The definition of "silent majority" has my picture next to it.

I've voted yes on every contract since 2000.

I'm voting HELL NO on C2015. Not even close. Why my rep would even consider sending it forward is mindboggling.

I've never been interested in DPA. A month ago I would have laughed if someone offered me a card. I would have asked if they were still around.

Today there's a card in my mailbox with the ink still drying.

First, we're going to vote down this POS TA. Then we're going to talk about representation. If DPA can reign in the loonies and find some leadership then I'm listening.


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