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To be fair, we should probably subtract union dues out of the proposed raises, since ALPA is just doing company work.
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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1901503)
What was the breakdown of the vote?
TA passed 11-8 Yes: LAX 16, ATL 44, INS 48, SLC 81, CVG 108 Cpt, SEA 54 FO No: MSP 1, DTW 20, NYC 66, SEA 54 Cpt, CVG 108 FO |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1901601)
It's funny that DPA said the opposite. The more you fragment and divide the group the less money you can demand in negotiations. For that reason they pledged to end all efforts almost a year before we would exchange openers for contract 2012. They would not go back on their word would they?
Sailing, buddy... If they stop kicking us in the scrote...at this point it doesn't matter. This TA actually makes money for the company, shrinks international even further, abrogates seniority, grows out sourced top and bottom scope, guts profit sharing further, etc...At a time of record profits AND leverage for us. DALPA doesn't represent us. This should never have been ta'd. You don't have Stockholm syndrome, you have battered wife syndrome. |
Originally Posted by Razor
(Post 1901668)
Check your PMs newK.
TA passed 11-8 Yes: LAX 16, ATL 44, INS 48, SLC 81, CVG 108 Cpt, SEA 54 FO No: MSP 1, DTW 20, NYC 66, SEA 54 Cpt, CVG 108 FO |
I think the company's goal was more of a 50%+1 passage. They saw the vote for 2012 and knew they could go even lower.
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Originally Posted by westcoste
(Post 1901677)
What are the numbers for?
ie = Minneapolis is the first local Council ever formed. They are Council 1. Atlanta is Council 44. etc. INS is the seniority list simulator instructors in ATL. |
Originally Posted by dangrad
(Post 1901624)
9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true
Delta Health Services is an existing COMPANY department which sends us a Crew Health Newsletter monthly.......not a third-party verification company. |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1901674)
The less money you can demand in negotiations?
Sailing, buddy... If they stop kicking us in the scrote...at this point it doesn't matter. This TA actually makes money for the company, shrinks international even further, abrogates seniority, grows out sourced top and bottom scope, guts profit sharing further, etc...At a time of record profits AND leverage for us. DALPA doesn't represent us. This should never have been ta'd. You don't have Stockholm syndrome, you have battered wife syndrome. Just like 2012, only with worse sick leave. :rolleyes: What nit wit thought this was a good idea in times of $6Billon in profits and $6Billion returned to the Shareholders, i.e. Richard and Ed? |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1901684)
As I've been saying for months, Richard will be able to tell Wall Street he just signed another Cost Neutral contract, all increased costs will be offset by a restructured profit sharing plan and an upgaged fleet, yada, yada, yada.
Just like 2012, only with worse sick leave. :rolleyes: What nit wit thought this was a good idea in times of $6Billon in profits and $6Billion returned to the Shareholders, i.e. Richard and Ed? Unfortunately, I only have 1 no vote to cast. If someone comes up with a con paper, I will happily forward it to every 777 guy in my contact list. |
Our sick leave opener was no changes. What did you get in exchange for this particular concession? .05 increase in per diem, that'll buy you one beer on a 4 day trip.
A few days before the TA was out, our reps said pay rates weren't even discussed. I assume they pounded out pay rates in a day, how? |
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