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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1900573)
That's highly disengenuous. It will affect every single FO below those who take the top quarter of LCA trips.
No one below that will be awarded what they could hold based on their seniority. You never answered my question. Are you on FPL today? I hope I expanded on that question(LCA ?) enough for you above. |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1900575)
Ok Professor, I'm not one to say this but.........direct impact? Really!?! You are only going to give credit for the first level? That's a fail and comes across to me as a sales pitch. It affects a tremendous amount more than 180 people.
Denny Beyond that we can all guess what might happen. Hopefully I gave enough additional information on the question of number of lines it would reduce in a category affected? Let me know if I can ask anything else. |
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1900573)
That's highly disengenuous. It will affect every single FO below those who take the top quarter of LCA trips.
Those below that cutoff would not be assured they could hold what they bid based on their seniority. You never answered my question. Are you on FPL today? Denny |
Originally Posted by Professor
(Post 1900576)
I absolutely did. I answered it yesterday. And am.
You are being paid our dues money to sell us a deal we don't want, a rushed **** sandwich that does not reflect our wishes. You are being paid our dues money to post on APC. I never thought I'd say this. But I'm renewing my DPA card today. |
Originally Posted by Professor
(Post 1900577)
Dude, I can only give you the numbers that are calculated vis a vis pilots bidding for LCA trips and what 75% of those effected will be.
Beyond that we can all guess what might happen. Hopefully I gave enough additional information on the question of number of lines it would reduce in a category affected? Let me know if I can ask anything else. |
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1900580)
Copy that.
You are being paid our dues money to sell us a deal we don't want, a rushed **** sandwich that does not reflect our wishes. I never thought I'd say this. But I'm renewing my DPA card today. I think I am presenting the facts as they are and nothing more. If I am not, I'll try harder to answer questions as best I can. |
Originally Posted by Howgozit
(Post 1900585)
No, you did not. I am guessing for every linecheck guy = loss of 1 F.O. line per month. How many line check guys do we have?
The numbers are that 250 first officers bid each month with LCA's. Right now. I am not privy to what the number of lines impacted would be. There is an expected loss of about 2% of lines in effected categories. That is all I got. |
And as the retirements pick up, that number will at minimum double.
Originally Posted by Professor
(Post 1900589)
Let me try again.
The numbers are that 250 first officers bid each month with LCA's. Right now. I am not privy to what the number of lines impacted would be. There is an expected loss of about 2% of lines in effected categories. That is all I got. |
Originally Posted by Professor
(Post 1900577)
Dude, I can only give you the numbers that are calculated vis a vis pilots bidding for LCA trips and what 75% of those effected will be.
Beyond that we can all guess what might happen. Hopefully I gave enough additional information on the question of number of lines it would reduce in a category affected? Let me know if I can ask anything else. All that being said, thank you for being there and passing along information!:) Denny |
As retirements increase, training and OEs will be rampant in all categories. ALL of them. IT may have a larger affect right now on new hire categories, and will probably always affect those categories to a greater degree. Going forward, especially past 2018 it will spread to all categories, and it will stay that way for some time.
I'm sure that's why it was on the companies hit list. I can tell you that our current system is one of the best if not the best I've heard of. I can also tell you that if this stays in the TA as it is, it becomes one of the worst. Far worse than AA's. The slide that the MEC put up saying that 100% of their LCA trips are pulled is patently FALSE. |
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