I think you need to think about it some more!:)

As was said before, the trickle down effect will possibly affect every line holder in an FO category below the top 25%.

I know my possibility is only in a "perfect world" so to speak but only affecting 180 people................nope I think that number is not even close.

Denny

Denny, Tune,

The impact will be the 180, as I mentioned...direct impact. But also there is an expected 1-2% change in the number of line holders in each category affected.

Clearly this is going to see a bigger impact in the new hire aircraft categories as well.

Does that answer the question?

Sorry Prof. That is complete B.S.

You pull 75% of LCA trips out of the pot prior to the F/O bid run, it will affect the majority of the F/O's QOL at the entire airline.

There is a laundry list of concessions in this thing that are an automatic "no" from me. This one is near the top.

This post and your next one you post after it are completely false. Please edit them before you mislead anyone into thinking EVERY SINGLE FO isn't affected by this language. The bid package for ALL FOs is smaller, and to think that the top FOs will all bid identically to the LCAs (and therefore remain unaffected) is moronic.

This may have been discussed but not only are we losing out on the PS trigger going to 6.5B we are also losing out on the 15% they contribute to our 401K on that larger PS payout. Another great way we are funding our raises.

quint, please see my post above your original.

i would say if it effects a category new hires populate disproportionately.

I'm not going to edit them. The facts are what they are. Yes, there will be trickle down effects. There is no question.

I have stated as much.

I have a question for you, Professor. Actually, I'm asking the pilot group as a whole.

If you take the pay raise out of the TA (8/.25/3/3), could you give it a yes vote?

If you could, can you explain why?

That's highly disengenuous. It will affect every single FO below those who take the top quarter of LCA trips.
Those below that cutoff would not be assured they could hold what they bid based on their seniority.

You never answered my question. Are you on FPL today?

Ok Professor, I'm not one to say this but.........direct impact? Really!?! You are only going to give credit for the first level? That's a fail and comes across to me as a sales pitch. It "directly" affects a tremendous amount more than 180 people.

Denny