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Delta TA: The CON Paper
THE CON PAPER. READ IT AND WEEP!
(from Hanger Talk Chit Chat) The TA Considerations, CONcerns, and CONsequences list below is read-only. While other CON papers will be more expansive, our goal is to provide a basic, concise, bullet-approach to the TA issues. It can be printed and shared with other union members unfamiliar with either some of the issues or with the pilot Chitchat forum. The associated website address is integrated in the list to help drive members to this forum. This collaborative effort aims to shed light on areas of the contract deemed detrimental to the pilot group. Ideally, it will grow and evolve as input is received from members. Input can be provided in a separate thread, vetted for accuracy by the group, then added to an amended list. We did not address the PRO's of the TA, as we felt the MEC road shows, PROmotions, and marketing blitz will more than adequately fill that square. Clearly, we believe the TA is inadequate in many areas, especially in the context of DAL enjoying unprecedented prosperity. __________________________________________________ ___________________________ TA 2015 CONsiderations, CONcerns, and CONsequences All of the following should be viewed in the context of a company enjoying unprecedented profitability. - projecting profits in the area of $6 billion for 2015 - reduced debt by $10B in past six years, two years ahead of its originally stated goal in 2009. - bought $1.1 billion in share repurchases in 2014, and BOD recently announced an additional $5 billion in share repurchase from now through 12/31/17 - total net income of $13B since signing of C2012 - realized $8B windfall in 2013 due to EU carbon tax thehangar.forumchitchat.com 1. COMPENSATION *** Useful to keep in mind that historically-accepted average of 2.5% yearly inflation equates to 9% over the life of a 3 1/2 yr contract. Many prefer to ignore this, but if you're trying to fill a bucket, it would be helpful to know how much is leaking out the bottom. PAYRATES: - Increases of 8/6/3/3. After "horse-trading" 5.75% for PS adjustment, it becomes 8/ 0.25/ 3/ 3. Corrected for inflation, the net impact to our real income (i.e. purchasing power), is 5.5 / -2.25/ 0.5/ 0.5. In other words, the last three pay increases spanning 1/16 thru 1/18 net a loss in buying power - There was much discussion about “soft” money increases in this deal, as a means to increase total compensation without adding to pay rates. We are left with three such pay adjustments virtually negated by inflation by the end of proposed contract. 1. Vacation pay: 9.3% increase (3:15 to 3:30) coincides with compounded inflation rate over life of contract ***. Thus, by 12/31/18, rate will be equivalent to present rate in real income. The 15 minute increase is for pay only, no additional credit. 2. CQ Training: Again, 9.4% increase (3:45 to 4:00) coincides with compounded inflation rate over life of contract ***. By 12/31/18, rate will be equivalent to present rate in real income. 3. Per Diem: Step increase to $.10/ hr ($2.35) domestic equates to a 9% adjustment. Corrected for inflation, rate in real income is once again completely negated by end of contract. Additionally, 2004 per diem was $2.40. - and DC, while Increased from 16 to 17 percent (6% increase), will not be realized one year after the amendable date. - Preliminary cost analysis of 2015 TA represents a total of $1.1B total value added over 3 1/2 year term of TA. Coincidentally, DAL also repurchased $1.1B of its stock in 2014 and lost $1.1B in fuel hedging in Q1 2015. - TA 2015 presents diminished increase in value relative to increase from C2012, despite Company being five times as profitable in 2015 (est.) versus 2012. C2012 resulted in a 20% cumulative increase (uncorrected for inflation) in value. 2015 TA represents only a 13.7% premium (uncorrected for inflation) over C2012. - We do not reach the May 2004 Delta pay rate 2017 (excluding any adjustment for inflation) until January. - Executive compensation is now excluded from the profit sharing formula. Pre-tax income, the metric used to determine profit sharing, has been altered to now exclude "ANY employee sharing plan or similar arrangement". A subtle hit to PS with a minor change in language. More to follow with C2019? 2. SICK LEAVE - A drastic rewrite of Section 14, it is the MOST poorly negotiated section of TA, with potentially dire consequences. - By moving the medical release requirement from Section 15B (limited for very specific FAA certificate-related issues, NOT to include justifying sick absence) Section 14, it will become commonplace for DAL to request a medical release. You thereby automatically release your entire medical history to DAL. - When you sign a release under Section 14 G 2, your release for a “specific sickness” gives "Delta Health Services" (DHC) potential access to your entire medical and social history. Your medical history should be between you, your medical doctors and your AME. Delta has absolutely no place in this. - TA language has been modified from medical “information” to “release.” A medical release, in medical jargon, infers a much broader scope. - "Medical release threshold” is met following 24 or more work days missed due to sickness during a rolling consecutive 365 day basis (no longer 1 June to 31 May). - 100-hour trigger for verification is now triggered following 15 missed work days. This will reduce the amount of sick leave without verification to approximately 76 hrs. - It is in a rolling 365-day period, not the sick leave year (1 June to 31 May) - Your doctor’s note now goes to a “Delta Health Services”, not CPO. - There is no voluntary verification (i.e. you cannot get a note for a 7-day sinus infection and turn it in to push your 15-day limit out into the future). - Volunteer verification will no longer be allowed. Verification will only be allowed once a pilot hits the trigger. - Company is no longer required to pay doctor fees or reasonable expenses when verification is required. - “Other proof” of illness will be no longer be allowed. - “Virtual” doctors (Clinics, etc) will no longer be allowed for verification. 3. SCOPE JV SCOPE: - Change from the metric of Seat Miles (Equivalent Air Seat Kilometers) to Block Hours benefits the Company. We would only fly 50% of the BLOCK HOURS in our trans-atlantic agreement, instead of 50% of the SEAT. In other words, Delta could fly one 757/767 or A330 while AF is flying their A380, where presently we would have to fly four 757s or nearly three 767s or two A330s on the same route to match the A380’s capacity! Do we like wide body flying? This is the largest grab at Delta Mainline flying since the invention of the regional jet. Is there a chance the new 737-900ER order is to replace some aging 767s operated on overseas routes? You bet there is, and yes, the -900’s are ETOPS capable. Higher pay but a lack of movement due to reduced requirement for wide body aircraft may end up resulting in similar or worse W-2 than lower pay but good movement. The cost/benefit analysis of this section is crucial in weighing your future career earnings. - The new language also puts the current amount of flying (which is in violation today) in compliance with a 2.5% buffer. So today the company is in violation of the KLM/AF Joint Venture, while passage of this TA will automatically get the company in compliance without any additional flying, with another 2.5% buffer. What is the point of having contract language, if we are just going to adjust the restrictions when the company fails to live up on their end? RJ SCOPE: - Elimination of Sections 1.D.4 - 1.D.6 eliminates the requirement for RJs to have 85% of their ops limited to 900 statute miles. - Also eliminates RJ requirement to have 90% of their ops per month to or from ATL, CVG, DTW, FLL, LAX, MEM, MSP, JFK, LGA, MCO, SLC, SEA, TPA. It eliminates their 6% cap on ops per month BETWEEN the airports listed (i.e. no nub-hub restrictions). The elimination of these mileage and route restrictions is replaced with a requirement to have a fixed ratio of flying relative to Mainline. - This will eliminate the benefit of Delta moving all that flying to mainline and allow DCI carriers to fly hub to hub. 4. SCHEDULING - Withholding LCA trips from FO's: - The Company will now be allowed to withhold from the PBS award pool up to 75% of OE block hours needed for the month. This will have a negative affect throughout the First Officer categories. - Not only will it limit the ability of a First Officer to be bought off a LCA/OE rotation, it will also limit the amount of trips FO’s can bid. The more senior FO’s will be required to have additional bids in case trips that he could usually hold are held back. - Green slips will be vastly reduced. - Under the TA, the FO will still be required to be in the category due to the presence of LCP trip. However, that trip will not be awarded, so reserve staffing is now one trip's worth greater than required under the staffing formula. Multiply that by the total amount of LCP trips withheld from PBS award, and you have some amount of excess reserves in that category. The greater the amount of training in a category, the greater the excess reserves in that category. - So, on a monthly basis a vast majority of the LCA's trips get no first officer assigned and every FO suffers a QOL penalty because of it. And that is before the Manpower hit that will ultimately result across the entire system. - TLV to 81 hours ..... "Work, work, work, work..." - "Mechanical" removed from language describing "circumstances over which the Company does not have control" during a reroute. This will now preclude any rerouted pilot not scheduled to release at his base within time limitation from receiving premium pay if it was caused by a mechanical. 5. MISCELLANEOUS - Deletion of the $1 million AD&D insurance for training or test flights. Another stark reminder of the gap between Company rhetoric proclaiming respect for its employees and the reality of its actions. - Increase in new hire freeze to 24 months. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1905585)
As I posted 10% is a huge exaggeration of pilots doing OE. We only carry 10% LCA's. They have to do line checks, theatre quals, special flts as well as OE. They are also given trips with no LCA duties.
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Originally Posted by Flamer
(Post 1905465)
Back this savings out of the 8%. Back out some SL savings. The 6% is already gone due to PS. It doesn't take long to realize this isn't a cost neutral contract. It actually saves the Co money as bloomberg already calculated. This doesn't even take into account the realized revenues to to top a and bottom end scope capitulation.
The pot is smaller. And with what is left over we are just moving it around the wallets of our members. What a union we have. |
Originally Posted by RetiredFTS
(Post 1905592)
For those leaning or decided "yes" because of the "what is our plan B?" scare tactic, ask yourself what is the company's plan B? They pushed for this early deal for a reason. When we vote this down, the company will still want a done deal. And done soon. Let us do what the NC and MEC failed to do and get back to the negotiating table. Did we leave money on the table? IDK, but we don't want to take a bite of this shiite sandwich.
Hold the Line. We left about $6 Billion on the table! :eek: That's the amount WE are going to fund, to return equity to the shareholders! Just like we left several Billion on the table in 2012. But this time around we are actually putting MORE of our money onto the table and walking away from it! After the company gets done cutting all the 'non-contract' people's profit sharing, as well as ours, we have given back far more money than we will get! |
The "Delta Pilots Against Contract 2015" Facebook page went from 717 members yesterday at this time to 1223 right now, almost doubling in 24 hours. A lot of pilots out there are realizing the union is lying to them and want this abomination stopped.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1512224622370653/ http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20120901014017 |
Originally Posted by Spudhauler
(Post 1905640)
Sailing, if this is true, why did the company push for it in the TA? When you look at the individual concessions in this thing they may not look that bad, but when you look at them in aggregate, it is a huge hit on our QOL. That is enough to make this an easy no, but when you take a glance at the sick leave portion, it's enough to make you puke. This is a giant overreach by the company, which is expected, but the blatant sell out by the very people who are supposed to represent our interests is disgusting.
Look at how over the past 20 years we gave away 50% of our domestic flying to DCC RJ's, in small bites and pretty soon there were 600 RJ's. Why do you think the company wants to switch to Block Hours for JV Scope? Same concept, only with our Big Iron. Richard is playing chess, Sailing is playing checkers.:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by EdGrimley
(Post 1905643)
The "Delta Pilots Against Contract 2015" Facebook page went from 717 members yesterday at this time to 1223 right now, almost doubling in 24 hours. A lot of pilots out there are realizing the union is lying to them and want this abomination stopped.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1512224622370653/ http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20120901014017 |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1905302)
Wonder what their "perspectives" will be if they ever find out the TA sells away our jobs to JV partners, screws ALL of our FO's, and starts a new B scale.
Carl |
Originally Posted by Maddog Waddle
(Post 1905032)
How do we do this???
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Originally Posted by mark350
(Post 1905631)
That's what burns me up. Before the TA was released, I was like a little kid at Christmas thinking I was going to open up a great present. Record profits, the company wants an early contract, Richard wants it signed before he leaves, etc. led me to believe we were really going to get back a lot of quality of life items we had lost in POS 96 and bankruptcy. Then I open up the present and see this... turd. Cost neutral and concessions? The company actually might be saving money when all the profit sharing for other employees is factored in? That's the best we can do? 6 months early? As a 26 year faithful alpa supporter and even apologist, I have finally thrown in the towel. Where's my DPA card? The NC and MEC 'yes' men were the last straw.
If we vote YES to this turd, we have nobody to blame but ourselves. :rolleyes: |
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