Answered ad nauseum.

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It's easy matter of fact it's probably higher than 5%. There are around 50 LCA on the ATL ER. Take 75% of that is 37. Say 12 of them swap all their trips or weren't assigned OE to start with. That leaves 25. There are around 500 FO line holders. That is 5%. That is a probably a conservative figure. BTW the ER has become a new hire plane.

Even if it is 2% is it ok with you to lower your FOs senority by 2%? I wouldn't be ok with doing it to my captains.

Why don't we let all the LCA bid before the all the captains? That would not go over very well. It's ok to take trips away from FO to bid .

And wait until the retirements really start kicking in and the commensurate training ramps up!

Does the company abrogate your seniority when they curtail training and LCA drops aren't available?

Translation: since I can't get that good deal, no one else should.

Alternate translation: The company really needed some help, and they asked nicely, so we caved.

If the sales team said it at the road show, it must be accurate. :rolleyes:

Is that you, alfaromeo? Whoever you are, you've got the requisite ALPA arrogance down pat.

Why should we get paid when we are sick? after all we add nothing to the company's bottom line.
Why should we even have a contract or seniority list? This restricts the company from making us more productive.

At the risk of sounding like PD....Who do you work for? and what's your agenda?

The LCA trip pulls is industry standard practice. The company will not budge on this one. The TA already got the best language in the industry vs AA and UAL. Especially with the amount of training coming up from growth and retirements. Most categories have 2-3% of total trips assigned OE. 75% 2-3% is not a big deal with the current movement in the company. 7,000 pilots will be gone in the the next 10 years and the company is growing simultaneously.

His first sentence says it all. Alpa wants an industry standard contract. If we TA this, we will not have one single section that is industry leading. Right now we have profit sharinf and sick leave. We will have numerous sections below industry standard including our retirement.

Look how quickly the ALPA drones pivoted from "historic... "to "world's best...." Now we're down to "industry standard." Could you imagine if RA told the shareholders his goal was an "industry standard" airline?

No wonder dalpa needs this high-pressure sales campaign.