Good post, Trip. But be prepared to be accused by Spackler of telling lies and accused by scambo of being a sellout!

I lived under the DAL B-scale. I'll throw it around. It's an abrogation of their seniority.

There are other ways to deal with this than the Company solution. As currently written it's a hose job to every FO.

Trip 7: "The LCA trip pulls is industry standard practice. The company will not budge on this one. The TA already got the best language in the industry vs AA and UAL. Especially with the amount of training coming up from growth and retirements. Most categories have 2-3% of total trips assigned OE. 75% 2-3% is not a big deal with the current movement in the company. 7,000 pilots will be gone in the the next 10 years and the company is growing simultaneously. "




No, I'll step up and call you a sell out. No need to wait for Carl.

If this was such a small number, why does the Company want it so badly? They just want the extra productivity. Plain and simple. DALPA wants to give it to them, too. To hell with our quality of life. It's all about productivity.

I'm a senior captain that won't be affected by this. I see it as a seniority grab and DALPA is the enabler.

Why should we not have better than industry standard? Why should we budge on this issue? The company came to us early while making record profits. I guess we can't tell them no. Reminds me of the girl in high school who couldn't tell any football players no. Are we that girl?

Who the hell are you? You have 14 posts. Go away.

Absolutely ridiculous! So now we are going to negotiate a contract based on companies who haven't even completed their mergers. They agreed to some horrible rules in order to get their Joint contract and bring them out of the stone age of bankruptcy.

We are an industry leader due to our sacrifices. We are well beyond where UAL/AA are in the cycle. Those companies are both larger and yet Delta's market cap is 20% greater than American and 41% greater than UAL based on Friday's close! When is enough, enough?

And for the love of GOD, stop with the 2% nonsense!! It is a boldfaced LIE!! Every FO is affected except for the plug. I know you get this along with all the other line towers. This is like a displaced pilot. You are arguing he is the only one affected when everyone knows the trickle down equals a decreased QOL for everyone on the list below him/her. You simply can't hold what you could hold prior to this TA. It is a HUGE give and it costs jobs!!

The ALPAholics do this from time to time. The Latest is this addict named Doug Madsen which plays off our solid poster here named Doug Masters. For a while they had a guy named Carl Spakler who rebutted me. They've also got Chuck Essential playing off our solid guy Check Essential.

The ALPAholics will stop at nothing to perpetuate the lies. They need a 12 step program. Let us give them step 1...vote this TA down.

Carl

What happened to industry leading?

So what if the company doesn't budge? Park us. We are not in a hurry.

Is that what you think this is about? Read the TA. It is not written to make FOs paired with LCA go fly, it's written so that when we are in the midst of a hiring binge you reduce the number of FOs required and GSs. It is a severe concession.

GO DAWGS!






That's a first. In my life. To ever say that. :D See what this is TA is doing. it's insanity. ;)

My guess is that LCPs are gonna be stuck with their trips once the schedules are out because they will be marked for IOEs. Not sure if it is all that good a deal for them either.