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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 1911303)
The LCA trip pulls is industry standard practice. The company will not budge on this one. The TA already got the best language in the industry vs AA and UAL. Especially with the amount of training coming up from growth and retirements. Most categories have 2-3% of total trips assigned OE. 75% 2-3% is not a big deal with the current movement in the company. 7,000 pilots will be gone in the the next 10 years and the company is growing simultaneously.
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Originally Posted by orvil
(Post 1911323)
Trip 7: "The LCA trip pulls is industry standard practice. The company will not budge on this one. The TA already got the best language in the industry vs AA and UAL. Especially with the amount of training coming up from growth and retirements. Most categories have 2-3% of total trips assigned OE. 75% 2-3% is not a big deal with the current movement in the company. 7,000 pilots will be gone in the the next 10 years and the company is growing simultaneously. "
No, I'll step up and call you a sell out. No need to wait for Carl. If this was such a small number, why does the Company want it so badly? They just want the extra productivity. Plain and simple. DALPA wants to give it to them, too. To hell with our quality of life. It's all about productivity. I'm a senior captain that won't be affected by this. I see it as a seniority grab and DALPA is the enabler. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1911371)
GO DAWGS!
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 1911303)
The LCA trip pulls is industry standard practice. The company will not budge on this one.
NO! |
And let's say 2% is believable and reasonable (I disagree), I of course believe those supporting the LCA relief are entitled to their opinion. Wrong, but entitled!
But lets say 50% +1 of us are okay with it. What did we get in return? All the concessionary items in this TA are for Delta, and against the pilots. Then we self-funded much of the pay raise. Like others have said, pay concessions might be recoverable at later date (it seems we are failing to prove that notion), but all the other compromises, will be PERMANENT or serve as a lowering of the bar from which to COMPROMISE EVEN MORE next time. Nothing in the TA is "no big deal." (sorry for the teen-like use of caps, but I felt it on this one!) |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 1911303)
The LCA trip pulls is industry standard practice.
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
(Post 1911391)
I used to have a modicum of respect for you.
It's this damn TA I tell ya. If this upside down TA world where 100% only means 2% spreads to the rest of the world, we're screwed. http://squarewheelscycling.com/uploa...da4fbae1c8.jpg We're screwed. It spread. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1911410)
I don't know what got into me.
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
(Post 1911382)
"Not budging" is not negotiating in good faith.
Of course, that would have required real negotiators that don't cry. Carl |
Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
(Post 1911382)
"Not budging" is not negotiating in good faith.
Why do they get to not negotiate in good faith but we have too? http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...psce3jggwr.png |
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