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JustMyOpinion 06-20-2015 10:03 PM

MEC Chairman - All FO's Seniority is for Sale
 
This is the message he has sent to all Delta First Officers. Trips being pulled for LCA is a direct assault on ALL First Officer's seniority. Seniority that they have earned. As the leader of all Delta Pilots he represents he should have looked across the table and stated LOUD AND CLEAR, "DELTA PILOTS SENIORITY IS NOT FOR SALE. END OF DISCUSSION".

Doug Madsen 06-21-2015 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by JustMyOpinion (Post 1911124)
This is the message he has sent to all Delta First Officers. Trips being pulled for LCA is a direct assault on ALL First Officer's seniority. Seniority that they have earned. As the leader of all Delta Pilots he represents he should have looked across the table and stated LOUD AND CLEAR, "DELTA PILOTS SENIORITY IS NOT FOR SALE. END OF DISCUSSION".

I couldn't agree more! I mean, really, why should someone actually have to come to work to get paid?? Totally unreasonable!:rolleyes:

scambo1 06-21-2015 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Madsen (Post 1911201)
I couldn't agree more! I mean, really, why should someone actually have to come to work to get paid?? Totally unreasonable!:rolleyes:

You're a sellout.

Status quo is better than this pos.

FOs seniority is for sale. Is that much different than a b scale?

$5b stock buy back and we get this crap TAd.

cornbeef007 06-21-2015 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Madsen (Post 1911201)
I couldn't agree more! I mean, really, why should someone actually have to come to work to get paid?? Totally unreasonable!:rolleyes:

Read the name of the thread. The problem with this concept isn't the pay, it's the seniority bypass that will take place. Do I personally think FOs should get 100% pay and pickup WS or GS on top of that? No but to take a sledge hammer to the policy isn't warranted, it should have been simply adjusted somewhat. Reading comprehension not your thing?

scambo1 06-21-2015 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 1911213)
Read the name of the thread. The problem with this concept isn't the pay, it's the seniority bypass that will take place. Do I personally think FOs should get 100% pay and pickup WS or GS on top of that? No but to take a sledge hammer to the policy isn't warranted, it should have been simply adjusted somewhat. You must be a captain?

Why did it need to be adjusted?

Is that a new survey item?

Klondike Bear 06-21-2015 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Madsen (Post 1911201)
I couldn't agree more! I mean, really, why should someone actually have to come to work to get paid?? Totally unreasonable!:rolleyes:

That only effects a small percent of guys. In my category the ATL ER it's around 5% with all the training. It's the other 95% that get worse trips that we should protect. And why would we do anything to hurt even 5% of pilots?

cornbeef007 06-21-2015 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1911215)
Why did it need to be adjusted?

Is that a new survey item?

I'm sure a lot of people put that on their survey:) I just think that some middle ground could have be reached rather then using a nuke...

Doug Madsen 06-21-2015 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 1911225)
That only effects a small percent of guys. In my category the ATL ER it's around 5% with all the training. It's the other 95% that get worse trips that we should protect. And why would we do anything to hurt even 5% of pilots?

At the roadshow, they said most categories were less than 2%. And the worst were new hire categories. Show your math.

Doug Madsen 06-21-2015 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1911211)
FOs seniority is for sale. Is that much different than a b scale?

I love how you guys who never lived under a B-scale throw that term around so casually.

scambo1 06-21-2015 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Madsen (Post 1911233)
I love how you guys who never lived under a B-scale throw that term around so casually.

I'm not throwing it around casually. I just don't have better words for what it is.

Ps I lived under the b scale.


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