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07-29-2015 | 02:49 PM

#51

newKnow

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Of course our payrate this year with a projected 20% profit sharing is 307 an hour. Their 757/767 rate is 242 compared to 274 with PS for us.

So, with us being paid so much more than them, you should be happy that we are still under C2012, right?

I guess, with the uncertainty of the sick leave changes, JV language, LCA FO Trip removal, and other things, we should all be happy.

You are right, Sailing. It seems you support the slogan:

Keep Calm and Profit Share On!

07-29-2015 | 03:36 PM

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Hank Kingsley

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Of course our payrate this year with a projected 20% profit sharing is 307 an hour. Their 757/767 rate is 242 compared to 274 with PS for us.

How did we get the profit sharing of which you speak Kemosabe?

07-29-2015 | 03:51 PM

#53

Purple Drank

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Of course our payrate this year with a projected 20% profit sharing is 307 an hour. Their 757/767 rate is 242 compared to 274 with PS for us.

Will you please tell us how the NMB classifies PS? Hint: Carl already told you.

07-29-2015 | 04:06 PM

#54

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If you read the TA, you don't have to fact check. It's all right there. I got through the section 1 and had to force myself to continue. The negatives just kept piling up...and up...and up. It's not about the $$$.

07-29-2015 | 04:56 PM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

I never said otherwise. I voted no for several reasons. Each of them I felt were valid reasons.

I'll say it again sailingfun...there's no possibility you voted NO. No possibility. You're only claiming to be a NO vote because you think it's the "street cred" you need to post here and have people think you're actually thoughtful.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

My no vote is now being used as a tool to overthrow the MEC.

You didn't have a NO vote, so you have no worries.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

The company will be laughing all the way to the bank. What happened to new TA in 48 hours? New TA in two weeks?

I know of only one or two people that said that. You did the exact same thing with C2012 by claiming people saying things that were never said. It's very weak fudmeister.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

The TA needed changes. With the current path we are on the chance of producing a new agreement that provides more value to the pilot group is virtually zero.

You have no idea fud, none. You and Curly can continue this nonsense of praying for failure so you can say: "I told you so" but the rest of us will just stay here and do the work

FUD on.

Carl

07-30-2015 | 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley

Sailing,
I'm looking at AMR's A330 hourly wage, is 285/hr correct. Plus he's got some pension. How are we better off?

Hank

Would you trade bank accounts over the last 10 years with an AA guy of similar seniority? You are an idiot if you would. You are looking at a snapshot. They have been anchors for the last 10 years by a long shot, and it is money they will never make up no matter how much you tout their current rates. They have lost tons OF time. And tons of money. We are going to go thru that same thing, no matter how hard you try to spin it otherwise, because we have no pay increases coming.

We voted no, and that's fine, but be honest when you talk about AAL and their pay. They haven't set any bars other than trip wires for years.

07-30-2015 | 07:15 AM

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the rest of us will just stay here and do the work

What "work" are you doing oh exalted one?

07-30-2015 | 07:34 AM

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Speaking truth to corruption, lies, propaganda, and self-centered agenda, oh small and puny one.

07-30-2015 | 08:02 AM

#59

Hank Kingsley

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We, you got a mouse in your pocket? Did they keep their pension?

07-30-2015 | 08:50 AM

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BenderRodriguez

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We, you got a mouse in your pocket? Did they keep their pension?

Yep. And I bought a ton of AAPL and DAL with my bigger paychecks.

. I can lose mine, but theirs is not within their control. I like my odds better especially considering that Dougie and the AAL execs are running up more debt, not less.

I am not dependent on anybody else to manage my retirement. You want to go down that road, fine but the Western guys were proved right all along. I want no part of it.