"...has nothing to do with the contract"

Just when we though you couldn't possibly lose more credibility, you say that.

 

In 30 months the Loss in pay will be about 25%. 21.5 direct rates, 1% DC, 1% vac and training plus a couple percent more in DC cash from the raise. You are saying that paying a max of 5.74% more in PS is going to bring the company to its knees? Call me confused on that one.

 

The TA is being used as a tool. Nothing more or less. Getting the best contract for the Delta pilot group is not the concern.

 

sailingfud,

If you voted no like you claimed, was it a signal that you wanted to banish ALPA? No?

Now do you see how silly your claim is that no voters are DPA operatives?

Likely not.

 

I have a suggestion. Do what I did, read the TA.

After I read the TA, I had a few questions. I listened to the analysis of the former negotiators and former MEC chairman. Unfortunately, they confirmed my concerns. Therefore, the vote was no.

I'll follow the same process in the future. I'll read the TA. Find the areas of concern and gain. Weigh these areas of concern against the gains. Then, I will make a decision. No reps, no roadshows, no drama.

The good news is information and thought are being freely shared and are readily available.

 

If you believe that you're delusional. No one I've flown with or talked to felt the TA was a political tool to change unions.

On it's merits, the TA fell short. And concessions are unwarranted.

 

The TA is being used as an opportunity by the diehard DPA guys.

This opportunity is being facilitated by the Alpa guys hanging on to their seats. If each LEC would allow their membership to go the DALPA /Alpa route of going thru the recalls and re votes, the DPA opportunity is gone. It is up to each LEC to choose. I believe several yes to the TA guys will keep their seats. Some clearly NEED to go. If the recalls are stonewalled, that, in and of itself, is the DPA opportunity.

This is about delta pilot representation and the best possible contract. We were lied to, plain and simple. We were not honestly represented, plain and simple. This is the opportunity the Delta MEC is fostering for the DPA.

As FTB so concisely noted, Alpa was brought down by an $800k sell job. if that happens, then yes, it's going to be awhile before we see a TA. That, my friend is entirely on the DALPA MEC...not DPA opportunists.

 

I never said otherwise. I voted no for several reasons. Each of them I felt were valid reasons. My no vote is now being used as a tool to overthrow the MEC. The company will be laughing all the way to the bank. What happened to new TA in 48 hours? New TA in two weeks?
The TA needed changes. With the current path we are on the chance of producing a new agreement that provides more value to the pilot group is virtually zero.

 

That makes no sense. If you remove the yes voters, DALPA becomes as strong as ever and DPA gets put on the back burner.

Please, explain your logic.

 

The truth of 750-800k from an established body verses 1-2k total from loosely associated activists speaks volumes about intent of the MEC and the quality or lack of, in the TA.