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Old 07-31-2015 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by UGBSM
J. Malone would be an excellent choice to finish off Donatelli's term. If he does good, maybe he will be considered for a full term. The trick will be how many current MEC yesmen (those that survive recall or re-election) will be working with him rather than working to grind an old axe.
The MEC guys aren't the concern. It's the MEC administration that's the issue. If John doesn't purge every last Moak disciple (Harwood, Hanson and the rest) they'll do to him exactly what was done to Kingsley Roberts.

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Old 07-31-2015 | 08:41 PM
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Total 100% BS.

When sailingfud does this kind of stuff folks, you just need to let it go by. He literally just makes things up and doesn't even care when he gets busted. He just keeps posting BS and moving on. It's what he does.

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Sailingfun said this: "In the 2001 contract Delta was making record profits and the result was a contract with overall costs on par with United and in line with the competition. The contract also contained numerous concessions including the medical records release wrongly attributed to TA15.

Which part do you quarrel with? I know you said it is 100% BS, but please be specific.
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Old 07-31-2015 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Seaslap8
Sailingfun said this: "In the 2001 contract Delta was making record profits and the result was a contract with overall costs on par with United and in line with the competition. The contract also contained numerous concessions including the medical records release wrongly attributed to TA15.

Which part do you quarrel with? I know you said it is 100% BS, but please be specific.
Your debate style reminds me of that of Gore Vidal! especially vs. William F. Buckley, In your case you poke and prod and are generally annoying and nobody will let you get behind them.
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Old 07-31-2015 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Madsen
I have no problem flying the line; but you guys better deliver MORE than the $1.1B in net contract improvements you just rejected. And the clock is ticking....
Yeah the clock is ticking..............for your guys on the MEC...

Seriously though, how can you say the clock is ticking for the no side when the yes side is still the majority on the MEC? If you really want to start the clock ticking, get them to step down.

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Old 07-31-2015 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Seaslap8
Sailingfun said this: "In the 2001 contract Delta was making record profits and the result was a contract with overall costs on par with United and in line with the competition. The contract also contained numerous concessions including the medical records release wrongly attributed to TA15.

Which part do you quarrel with? I know you said it is 100% BS, but please be specific.
I'm not sure what you guys had in 2001. But, are you saying the medical record release language in TA 2015 was the same as what we have now in C2012?

Please, be specific.


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Old 08-01-2015 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
In the 2001 contract Delta was making record profits and the result was a contract with overall costs on par with United and in line with the competition. The contract also contained numerous concessions including the medical records release wrongly attributed to TA15.
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From the 1996 contract. Was also in '90.
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Old 08-01-2015 | 10:15 AM
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The sales job has been taken up by company men.

Why on Earth are we trying to split hairs between C2k and the DOA NA15?

The only thing we should be doing is making the next sick leave section better than C12's.

Amazingly, the guys crowing about C2K sick leave as the standard, are the same guys who actively sandbag efforts for C2K pay rate restoration.

Let's not allow our expectations to be managed.

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Old 08-01-2015 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Molon Labe
Your debate style reminds me of that of Gore Vidal! especially vs. William F. Buckley, In your case you poke and prod and are generally annoying and nobody will let you get behind them.
Your debate style reminds me of nobody of note...but if if you're going to hitch your horse to anyone against Buckley you might look to Noam Chomsky...Gore Vidal was an arse, I'd take WFB seven days a week and twice on Sunday!!!
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Old 08-01-2015 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Seriously though, how can you say the clock is ticking for the no side when the yes side is still the majority on the MEC? If you really want to start the clock ticking, get them to step down.

Denny

Well, that ends that argument.
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Old 08-01-2015 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Molon Labe
Yes, and I believe he would try to preclude the engineering of Wilson polling questions framed so as to get answers that facilitate the shadow MEC's agenda. Malone is a big step in the right direction.
Question 23: Which part of the scope improvements in tentative agreement 2015 did you like the best: (please only select one answer, even if you rightfully have more than one that was your favorite)
  1. JV Improvement
  2. Regional Jet Improvement
  3. Allowing MEC Chairman to put the Delta logo on foreign carriers improvement

Question 35: Do you think we should end sick abuse?
  1. Yes
  2. All of the Above
Question 11: If you voted no, do you have a plan to get over one billion dollars back into the pockets of the pilots?
  1. No, I don't.
  2. I voted Yes.
Question 1: If you voted no, which website or social media location most influenced you to vote no:
  1. Airline Pilot Central Forums
  2. The Facebook
  3. Chit Chat
  4. Jet Careers
  5. The Center For Dumbass Rocket Surgeons
  6. I correctly voted Yes.
Question 94: Do you understand the importance of switching from EASKs to Flight Hours?
  1. No
  2. Yes.

Question 69: Do you understand the reason why it is wrong for a co-pilot to make $200,000 to $300,000 per year and never come to work?
  1. Yes
  2. No
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