Totally agree Buzz. And I'll bet he'd be a damn fine MEC chairman. He'd be head and shoulders above the rest.

Carl

 

You do know that you're just seen strictly as a bomb thrower with nothing to add right? Before you started posting again from your 6 year absence, you behaved the exact same way.

Please continue posting though because we all need continuous reminders of the arrogance, condescension and lack of anything substantive that is the hallmark of the old guard Moak disciples.

Thanks again.

Carl

 

I have a copy of C2k laying around. Give it to the company to sign. I'd be good with that.

Something else to think about. The A350 will be on the property shortly (in airline pilot time), I don't believe we have pay rates for that yet, do we?

BD

 

NO Malone.

 

Hello RockyMtMadDog...nice to see you again. I've been asking you this question on several different threads, just want to see what your answer might be? Our former MEC chairman said that our contract, and I don't quote, was the best in the whole wide world, ever. I had lunch today with another Air Guard pilot that works for UPS. He just entered his 13th month of service. His pay went from 39/hr to 149/hr. I am in year 8, and I make 128/hr. His reserve guarantee is 81/hr, ours is 72/hr. I'll let you do the math on that one. I won't even mention their pension, vacation, min day, etc...My question is, which one of us is working under the best contract in the whole wide world, ever? I won't even discuss my friends at the guard that fly for FedEx and SWA. You can bark about PS and pay tables all day long. I looked at his first year 2 pay stub compared to mine at year 8. Guess which one was better? Feel free to respond to this thread if you want to...or continue to argue for the current Dalpa statu quo if you'd like. I'll be waiting for your response.

 

You've got to give us more than that...

 

you are presuming it won't be offset by further concessions that make it even more cost neutral!

 

Here is a quoted statement from the no voters joint letter on the cost of the contract. No where is cost neutral mentioned and they saw all the costing.


This TA does provide industry-leading pay rates and profit sharing, along with a number of work rule improvements. It increases the value of the PWA by a minimum of $1.1B over its three-and-one-half-year term, depending upon Delta’s profitability. However, we believe that it falls short of the overall value that the current market provides us leverage to command, and that it contains certain concessionary provisions that are simply not acceptable to the pilot group, or that may have unknown ramifications and/or onerous consequences.

 

Why not just go with the gloopy plan? It also saves the company $100 million, and that's just smart rocket surgery.

 

Of Course the Company won't say its cost neutral, UNTIL the first press conference after said TA is signed. There are two reports from both Barrons and Zach's that say its worse than cost neutral, its cost negative. I have posted them before, don't make me go look for them again!