Me to the Chief Pilot, "We had a personality conflict, having him in the cockpit would have been a distraction and I felt it would be best for safety of flight, if he rode in the back."

Questions?

None.

Good Day Lieutenant.

 

HP may or may not be a good guy. He comes across as an ass a lot of times on here. I've commuted for over 20 years at this airline(NWA/DELTA)and will be for another 20. I've always volunteered to take a JUMPSEAT many times , (FA or cockpit) to get the most people on. Even after working HKG-KIX-ANC and then jumpseating ANC-MSP-DFW and giving up the cockpit JS to a FEDEX pilot and drooling on the 757 door 3 FA JUMPSEAT on the ANC-MSP leg. I'll take my chances with the chief pilot if a Delta pilot chooses not to help out. 99% of commuting Delta pilots would do this for an offline pilot or non rev. HP likes to take an antagonistic approach to many things that most reasonable people wouldn't even consider an issue.

 

I've been 2 leg commuting for 15 years now and this is simply my philosophy. If I have to jumpseat, I always ask the Captain, even if it's my company. If I non-rev, I always let them know I'm there and I appreciate the ride, unless it would interfere with boarding. I've offered to sit on the FA jumpseat numerous times, and yes I felt in the way. However, sometimes the FA jumpseat is better on the the behind and back. ;-). That being said, if someone didn't want to sit on the FA jumpseat to get me on, hey, life's still good. No need for me to elevate my B.P. over it. I hold nothing against that person as long as they are professional about it. The old saying, treat others how you'd like to be treated works most of the time.

Now get off my jumpseat! LOL.

Off the subject but what a game last night between the Cardinals and Packers.

 

I truly hate to reply to a thread as fraught with controversy as this one is, but has anyone considered that the FA JS is only available to DL pilots *as available* behind DL FA's? I know in most cases that the agent can slide people around, but take JFK for instance... Tons of commuters and always gamesmanship with respect to non rev, JS, etc.. You could give up your cockpit JS, only to be bumped by a FA that is executing a plan B at the last minute, which happens all the time. That's something I would really think about if it's a full boat, which it usually is. In other words, you're asking a pilot to give up a guaranteed seat for one that he could possibly be bumped off by a commuting FA...

 

The entire argument in this thread is based on the assumption that the flight attendent seat is open.

Just because a flight attendent could show up doesn't mean we assume they will show up for every flight. If a FA does show, the offline person is out of luck. This thought process gets the offline person on most of the time as opposed to none of the time, in this particular circumstance.

 

Reading back through here.... You were vouching for the guy calling for leaving people behind and wrote this in regard to him. Irony at its finest.

 

You know other airline pilots call Delta pilots, "Double Breasted DB's?"

This thread is exactly why.

 

No one is impressing anyone. So you say being home is important, (which I completely agree). Let's reverse the role, and I choose not to take the FA J/S and left a Delta guy or another offline pilot behind (which is something I would never do). I'm not impressing anyone. I'm just passing it forward, helping the other guy get home to his family, just like I am. No one is forcing anyone to take the FA J/S, it's just a way to help out another commuter. It doesn't matter who he/she works for, we all are tying to get home, why not help each other out when there's an opportunity.

 

Ten pages, really??

 

I hear that. Got the FA JS on the back of the 717 the other day. It was a short flight, which kind of made it worse because the male FA just stayed in the seat next to me the whole time (no service under 250nm).