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Old 06-03-2016 | 10:43 AM
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Pithy answers to #2 & #3...

2) Some hate lanyards, some are afraid of going to Delta jail, some hate ALPA so much they refuse to wear anything remotely suggesting they are in favor of ALPA, etc...

3) I think we are mostly taking the high road with the NMB.
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Old 06-03-2016 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
I have a better question. Why don't you mind your own business, and we will mind ours?

Actually I think DALFAs questions are better. Are you an aspiring "Captain Happy?"


I too have noticed similar percentages with the lanyards.

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Old 06-03-2016 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
I have a better question. Why don't you mind your own business, and we will mind ours?
She has more balls then you, kid.

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Old 06-04-2016 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Actually I think DALFAs questions are better. Are you an aspiring "Captain Happy?"


I too have noticed similar percentages with the lanyards.

Scoop
Good one, nyet. I just love it when a non-pilot thinks she or he has the platform to tell us whether or not we should put in a WS request. There is a whole universe of complexities to our contract that even a pilot has no business making that ridiculous assertion, much less a FA.
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Old 06-04-2016 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Good one, nyet. I just love it when a non-pilot thinks she or he has the platform to tell us whether or not we should put in a WS request. There is a whole universe of complexities to our contract that even a pilot has no business making that ridiculous assertion, much less a FA.
I'm kinda with you in that point. I do think she has a point about leverage. We have the ability to make a difference, we are just too short sighted to see or use it.

I'm all about safety, if it needs to be written up, then do so, no matter where you are.
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Old 06-04-2016 | 03:06 AM
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I sort of agree with you (and her) on the leverage thing (which probably sounds like it contradicts some earlier posts of mine). However we have to ensure that pilots make individual decisions for themselves and not presume to make those decisions for others.
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Old 06-04-2016 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
I have a better question. Why don't you mind your own business, and we will mind ours?
Let's not "mind ours." Let's threaten to help them organize (and follow through) if mgmt doesn't start playing ball.

It's Nothwest airlines as far as labor relations are concerned. Just because we haven't collectively figured that out doesn't make it go away.
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Old 06-04-2016 | 03:48 AM
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I know that you don't believe me... but I agree with you. That IS a viable step for us to pursue.
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Old 06-04-2016 | 07:15 AM
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Believe it or not, it is my business. Why?

1. Since we're not unionized (and many pilots think we shouldn't) then ALPA gets to indirectly negotiate for us as well.

2. Since we have the same employer and share the same workspace (separated by a door) then it is my business.

3. Since many pilots seems to believe that our 14.5% pay increase was a huge raise and tell my coworkers that...even when the cut to PS alone eats up 3/4 of that 14.5% then I'll go ahead and offer my opinion on your situation.

4. I have years of union experience, even though I don't have one now and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look back in history and see how labor has been successful in attaining considerable gains.

5. There's too many pilots out there that think the NMB is going to release you guys to strike. Read my lips: Never gonna happen!

6. I can't stand our greedy executive team and would much rather you guys get your fair share rather than Big Ed fatten up his wallet even more.

7. Dude, we're on the same team...
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Old 06-04-2016 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
Believe it or not, it is my business. Why?

1. Since we're not unionized (and many pilots think we shouldn't) then ALPA gets to indirectly negotiate for us as well.

2. Since we have the same employer and share the same workspace (separated by a door) then it is my business.

3. Since many pilots seems to believe that our 14.5% pay increase was a huge raise and tell my coworkers that...even when the cut to PS alone eats up 3/4 of that 14.5% then I'll go ahead and offer my opinion on your situation.

4. I have years of union experience, even though I don't have one now and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look back in history and see how labor has been successful in attaining considerable gains.

5. There's too many pilots out there that think the NMB is going to release you guys to strike. Read my lips: Never gonna happen!

6. I can't stand our greedy executive team and would much rather you guys get your fair share rather than Big Ed fatten up his wallet even more.

7. Dude, we're on the same team...
We need more of you in the pilot group.

Speak up!

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