The Surveys
08-22-2016 | 04:00 PM
#151
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 260
Likes: 0
08-22-2016 | 05:05 PM
#152
Quality of Lifer
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 691
Likes: 5
From: M88A
OK then let me ask you this. IF we got 22/7/7, and they still wanted all of those things that seem so abhorrent, and we subsequently turn it down, what do you think would happen next? Mind you that 22/7/7 is a compounded 39.6% pay increase (I rounded down). Show me the 'reasonableness' in turning down -in terms of a pay increase- more money than something like 90% of the country even makes. Or do you believe being 'righteous' will completely win the day in every way and that the NMB and politicos will buy into our case?
08-22-2016 | 05:12 PM
#154
Quality of Lifer
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 691
Likes: 5
From: M88A
exactly! And while you are waiting to see your doctor you don't get paid for the trip. Not to mention you are having to spend your limited time off chasing doctors notes. Waste of your time and waste of the doctors time. Wake up and smell the coffee James! If you spent as much time toward calculating a solution and moving forward with the group for the common good as you do trying to defend company drivel we would be that much closer to success. As it is right now you are the equivalent of a fly in the room....just buzzing in my ear....
08-22-2016 | 05:14 PM
#155
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 7,292
Likes: 0
From: A350 Both
exactly! And while you are waiting to see your doctor you don't get paid for the trip. Not to mention you are having to spend your limited time off chasing doctors notes. Waste of your time and waste of the doctors time. Wake up and smell the coffee James! If you spent as much time toward calculating a solution and moving forward with the group for the common good as you do trying to defend company drivel we would be that much closer to success. As it is right now you are the equivalent of a fly in the room....just buzzing in my ear....
I need more time off anyway.
08-22-2016 | 06:22 PM
#156
Line Holder
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 993
Likes: 0
From: VEOP Retired! 7ER A was last position
Several straw men in there. We don't make more than 90% of the people in our country with the same or similar liability and responsibility, not to mention the demonstrated skill and experience to even be eligible for the position. It's an invalid comparison.
A minimum wage worker in the US makes more than 95% of Sri Lankans. How dare they ask for a raise. See?
The sick leave is exactly what the Co wanted in 2012. What changed??
I think our Dec reopener is reasonable, and with a couple adjustments to the AIP's would pass in the high approval range the MEC set as a goal.
A minimum wage worker in the US makes more than 95% of Sri Lankans. How dare they ask for a raise. See?
The sick leave is exactly what the Co wanted in 2012. What changed??
I think our Dec reopener is reasonable, and with a couple adjustments to the AIP's would pass in the high approval range the MEC set as a goal.
08-22-2016 | 06:27 PM
#157
Line Holder
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 993
Likes: 0
From: VEOP Retired! 7ER A was last position
Agreed. An exemption for surgery or disease and someway to mitigate the 8 to 12 day trip sickness. And no rolling 12 months. Done. Barring these, do many guys call in sick more than 4 to 5 4 day trips every year???
08-22-2016 | 06:38 PM
#158
Bus driver
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 894
Likes: 9
What Tubo1 said Tsquare...who care what anyone else makes that doesn't do what we do for a living? The other 90 percent could make the sacrifice and invest the time and training and experience required to do what we do and make...but they don't, and that's fine. For a guy that sells his soul on behalf of LBP, which makes all pilots from the top of the bottom of the seniority list equal in terms of pay, your petty arguments about the other 90 percent get lost in your hypocrisy...
08-22-2016 | 06:43 PM
#159
Bus driver
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 894
Likes: 9
We'll never get 22/7/7 without selling the farm on AIP's, which obviously won't happen. What would 22/7/7 put us compared to UAL? 10-15% ahead??? Guys, lets face it, we're handcuffed by the NMB and (mostly) pattern bargaining. UAL rates plus a few percent and comparable work rules and benefits improvements. If we give on the AIP's, then I would expect higher pay to offset. Bet we end up somewhere in this ballpark.
08-22-2016 | 06:43 PM
#160
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 7,292
Likes: 0
From: A350 Both
What Tubo1 said Tsquare...who care what anyone else makes that doesn't do what we do for a living? The other 90 percent could make the sacrifice and invest the time and training and experience required to do what we do and make...but they don't, and that's fine. For a guy that sells his soul on behalf of LBP, which makes all pilots from the top of the bottom of the seniority list equal in terms of pay, your petty arguments about the other 90 percent get lost in your hypocrisy...
flame on. Just vote no. it will work.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
